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Iron madness - is he a CopyCat ? ? ?

Yuli
Retired

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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 19:00
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On 2006-01-28 18:04, THE-ORACLE wrote:
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On 2006-01-28 11:16, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
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man i realy dont give a shit what ppl think about my music.....


thats sad




THE-ORACLE u r sad. 5Meo-Geo has a very harsh way of speech but his idea was pretty clear - Real artists do what they do from an urge to do it. It is personal, very personal thing. Lots of emotions involved here. If the artist is writing music to satisfy his listeners as a main idea behind his music then it is more prostitution then art I guess. And there are more than a few ppl in the scene pimping that prostitution.           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Nathan
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 19:19
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On 2006-01-28 19:00, Yuli wrote:


If the artist is writing music to satisfy his listeners as a main idea behind his music then it is more prostitution then art I guess.



Well said!



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DJJISS
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 19:22
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 21:09

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illusiondreamer
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 22:00
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 23:53
ziv- i mean that u can rock on your own and realy no need to copy anything.

until now u agree just with those say its all copy so it ok.

i wish u to try make something no one ever heard before it might be intresting since u know technics of work and got good ear.

its just that u need to develope more "unique" style in my opinion.may be more ideas into it, i can understand if u dont agree.. but thats what i think.

and the-oracle.. if u want to messure art with money i believe u are like my parents.nothing to say to them or to you on that subject.


ohh.. and i also dont give a shit who likes my music.

but some do
and im happy that i could contribute to their enjoyment.
it isnt my goal tho. i do it just cause thats what i like.

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Nathan
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 00:10
tsabeat, i dont think that anyone supports copycats, imho copycats should be avoided. For example I used to get exited by every new track by psycraft but since they started copying Astrix (3rd album)... I couldn't care less about their music.           -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
ND
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 00:21
Here some interesting read for you:

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THE-ORACLE
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 00:27
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On 2006-01-28 18:24, psy^soldier wrote:
why is that sad the oracle?
becuse his motivation for making money is not about how much people in the trance secne will like him and how much money he make out of it ?



well I dont know about you but if i would make music i would like people to like it rather then say "what is that shit?!"....
money doesn't have anything to do with it.           Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
THE-ORACLE
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 00:27
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On 2006-01-28 19:00, Yuli wrote:

THE-ORACLE u r sad.



I wasn't the one to turn the argument to a personal level...grow up.           Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
THE-ORACLE
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 00:32
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On 2006-01-28 23:53, tsabeat wrote:
ziv- i mean that u can rock on your own and realy no need to copy anything.

until now u agree just with those say its all copy so it ok.

i wish u to try make something no one ever heard before it might be intresting since u know technics of work and got good ear.

its just that u need to develope more "unique" style in my opinion.may be more ideas into it, i can understand if u dont agree.. but thats what i think.

and the-oracle.. if u want to messure art with money i believe u are like my parents.nothing to say to them or to you on that subject.


ohh.. and i also dont give a shit who likes my music.

but some do
and im happy that i could contribute to their enjoyment.
it isnt my goal tho. i do it just cause thats what i like.




I'm not sure where I mentioned money, money wasn't on my mind and in my opinion got nothing to do with this argument.

It's beyond me how can an artist no care about what people think about their music... I doubt many people who say that really mean it.
Artist dont make music only for themselves, it their creation and art but in the end every artist want people to like their track/creation.           Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 03:23
well oracle i can only say that i allready know what "they" gonna like.
i can copy astrix/skazi/u name it.
but its cheap in my opinion (probably got that )
so i try to make something new and intresting.
and its not meen that pplz like it less. so far i can only say they do like it. but if not i would never change even 1 sound in it.           www.sattelbattle.com
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THE-ORACLE
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 04:03
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On 2006-01-29 03:23, tsabeat wrote:
well oracle i can only say that i allready know what "they" gonna like.
i can copy astrix/skazi/u name it.
but its cheap in my opinion (probably got that )
so i try to make something new and intresting.
and its not meen that pplz like it less. so far i can only say they do like it. but if not i would never change even 1 sound in it.



people always like new and different (nothing in skazi i like...astrix got some nicer older stuff )
no need to copy anyone....if you make good music people will like it period.
          Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Morbidelic
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 10:40

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doof sound isn't winter demon and toxic - entropy, double r.e.l, zirkin, rev are part of doof records

winter demon & toxic are part of the dark-fullon israeli gang

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Yeah And this is "Dark" gang
if this is a dark music style for u bro(winter toxic azax etc)
u sure love your night time with a lot of light. thats my opinion.

Dark itS dark no light
only black drops coming from the sound system.

your morbid.           Happy Happy,Joy Joy.

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Kiriyama

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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 11:15
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On 2006-01-29 00:32, THE-ORACLE wrote:

It's beyond me how can an artist no care about what people think about their music... I doubt many people who say that really mean it.



I don't care whether the listeners "understands" what I try to tell with my music nor do I care if they like it or not. If they do, I just take it as a huge bonus as I make music as "therapy" - the creation process is a necessary (rather said compulsory) output for me. If I cannot have it I'll go crazy and run on the walls.

Let's make another scenario related to this one. What if a painter started to do pictures with the intention of making as many people as possible liking em. I think I have a brief idea what that's called...

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