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Intros, intros and intros, help!
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Djones
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 10:00
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I'm having some extreme difficulties trying to make itneresting intros for my music.
Usually I just skip the intro and get straight into my loopititus way of working.
The thing is that I just find if very difficult to think of any interesting stuff to kick my tracks off with.
Like just a simple atmosphere.
How do I make it interesting and original.
And what sort of FX and stuff should fly thru the sound spectrum to build up to a nice start.
It's all a big mess in my head, which I can't straighten out. |
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 11:55
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scobbah
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 14:04
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I sometimes find myself ending up with a pleasant result by taking main leads or other elements which constitute the "identity" of the track, preferably melodic parts if you ask me, and then drop a few notes of it and thus make some sort of "light version" of the main element (perhaps add some filters to it, let your imagination go wild). This seems to me like a good way of getting a nice and coherent plot of the track. As a listener and dancer, I love to hear a light version of the main element in the beginning of the track during its introduction as a sort of teaser, as I will then keep on dancing and wait till e.g. the main lead kicks off. Needless to say, I will go nuts once the lead kicks off, screaming like a mad man - yehaaa!
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dtd
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 14:23
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scobbah, yes this is a good tip. that way, one can introduce the theme of a track and/or the harmonies.
Djones, by all means try out absynth if you can. you can make your own good sounding atmospheric patches with it. play with them the chord progressions you have in your track. or at least introduce them.
on top of that, you can lay a percussive element (still weak) to introduce the rhythm of the track.
introducing a special patch/sound of your track can be a good idea as well (i.e. play something with the patch that later plays your killer lead etc).
a good idea is also to start with an intro, getting out of the workflow to first loop a beat for hours, then finish the track from the first kick on, than then making quickly a fx/pad intro 
best wishes!
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Djones
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 14:58
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Also, if I play with some pads and add all crazy FX like Antares filters and more and more, I do actually get some nice results.
But in a way it just accidentally sounds good and therefore it does not has much to do with music creation anymore, and I feel that others would notice this as well.
I prefer my music to sound "intelligent" instead  |
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scobbah
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 15:17
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With all respect Djones but if intelligence would be woven into a track without 'accidents' at all, I would thus regard all my creations as collections of 'accidents' since I have, during the creation of each track, found myself saying aha! while discovering that sound X fits great with lead Y etc. If it sounds great, go with it. To me, intelligence is like beauty - it is in the eye of the beholder.
I wonder how many times I have listened to a track and found myself hypnotised by a certain sound, regarding it with its context as highly intelligent (or psychedelic, if you wish), while the composer just threw it in there and created the arrangement by 'accident'. In conclusion, perception seems to be the key indeed.
Just to share some fun with you, I got a theory about creation. If you long for making psychedelic music with an emphasis upon the psychedelic level, the subsequent result seems to turn out as some what strained. If you just go with the flow, do what you like and without trying to put any certain emphasis here or there (i.e. without templates stating that this is what you are going to do and hence avoid being led by forms), it tends to result in tracks being just tracks to you mirroring yourself in the element of music. While the latter might sound like nothing extra-ordinary to you, it might indeed sound like sheer psychedelic insanity to another (or intelligent or whatever), for - TODAY'S CLICHÉ - what can be more psychedelic than the mirrored soul of another human being - hahahaha. For example, I wonder how many 'accidents' occurred during the creation of Pink Floyd's 'Ummagumma' or 'The Piper At The Gates of Dawn'. Indeed I regard the pieces as highly psychedelic and intelligent, yet the fact remains unknown to us how many 'accidents' there really were...
OK, a bit off topic I know.. I just wanted to encourage you to go with whatever sounds good to you...! 
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ohshit
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 19:36
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scobbah
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 19:54
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I had no idea there was such a word. Thank you!
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Diaks
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 20:24
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Hehe nice link. i like this part from the wiki link:
"Most authors who have studied scientific serendipity both in a historical, as well as in an epistemological point of view, agree that a prepared and open mind is required on the part of the scientist or inventor to detect the importance of information revealed accidentally. This is the reason why most of the related accidental discoveries occur in the field of specialization of the scientist. About this, Albert Hofmann, the Swiss chemist who discovered LSD properties by accidentally ingesting it at his lab, wrote:
"It is true that my discovery of LSD was a chance discovery, but it was the outcome of planned experiments and these experiments took place in the framework of systematic pharmaceutical, chemical research. It could better be described as serendipity."
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akuma
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Posted : Apr 16, 2007 21:04
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i think different intros fit in different kind of song's
Like if you want some dark psy just build a lot of intensity, give a break, and kaboom
in more melodic psytrance you can give the listener a sort sample of the melody or hats n snare's, of your track and of course use some pad's and automations to keep it interesting. |
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