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Interesting read from a DJ's mind (Sven Vath)
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 00:08
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Did I ever say what my preference was? I don't think I ever did.
And I think it's pretty obvious that my statements are generalities and not meant to apply to every situation.
I see a lot of "DJs" now whose collections consist entirely of hits and remixes of hits getting booked based on their looks or popularity or kissing up to promoters. Eventually they gain decent technical skill but their success is still based on popularity. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 00:51
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| Being a DJ is now more about creation than selection.
On the one hand, there are very creative DJs who take tired tracks and make something new out of them--these are a very small minority though.
On the other hand, it is now very easy to build up a collection of tracks very quickly and very cheaply, and there is no such thing as a "rare track" anymore. No longer does it actually require effort to find good tracks--if a track is good it will undoubtably become popular very quickly.
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I'm sorry, I just don't see the point of your posts in regards to these situations...
So you admit that your points are generalities that don't apply to every situation...so what are you trying to express? To me, they're so specific as to be nothing more than opinion, based on a very small subset of the DJ population. Which is fine, but you state them as if they were facts.
Yes, there are bad DJs, and DJs based on popularity, and DJs booked based on looks or kissing up. It has always been that way. I don't see how that is relevant to this discussion in terms of the new tech changing DJ culture, as those aspects of DJing are as old as DJing itself.
What I get from your posts (maybe mistakenly) is that you are kind of offended that people try to DJ without putting in the 'proper' effort as defined by you? If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 18:41
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@basilisk
I think that while Sven make a lot of whining about vynil for sure is not the must important point of this statement.
Now, more than in the vynil era, with the huge access to music (beatport) digging has become more important than ever. And for djing digging is still 50% of the job, the 50% being mixing on the fly.
For me electronic music parties are about sound experimentation, large voyages in to different sound territories. The Dj is driving the space ship and he will take us to his prefered landscapes.
I really hate planned sets and one hour of music by the same artist, specially if I know his music. This two trends are hurting a lot the ethos of EDM parties. How many of us have come to festivals year after year to watch our favorit artist perform exactly the same "live" performance?
I feel a lot more satisfied when I go to a party and the dj drop 30 or more tracks I didnt know. I feel I discover something new. And when the dj set played was, track by track, picked up cause it fitted that right moment and crowd its once in a lifetime experience. Thats is one of things that makes the EDM scene very different from rock or other genres.
And while I embrace technology for convenience, I still have to see an artist to take full advantage of what is avaible now with the software. Nothing as impressive as hearing Laurent Garnier going from trance to drum and bass, or Birdy Nam Nam.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:43
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On 2011-01-13 00:51, willsanquil wrote:
What I get from your posts (maybe mistakenly) is that you are kind of offended that people try to DJ without putting in the 'proper' effort as defined by you?
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It's not really lack of effort that offends me as much as motivation. |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 04:04
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On 2011-01-13 18:41, Login wrote:
Now, more than in the vynil era, with the huge access to music (beatport) digging has become more important than ever. And for djing digging is still 50% of the job, the 50% being mixing on the fly.
For me electronic music parties are about sound experimentation, large voyages in to different sound territories. The Dj is driving the space ship and he will take us to his prefered landscapes.
I really hate planned sets and one hour of music by the same artist, specially if I know his music. This two trends are hurting a lot the ethos of EDM parties. How many of us have come to festivals year after year to watch our favorit artist perform exactly the same "live" performance?
I feel a lot more satisfied when I go to a party and the dj drop 30 or more tracks I didnt know. I feel I discover something new. And when the dj set played was, track by track, picked up cause it fitted that right moment and crowd its once in a lifetime experience. Thats is one of things that makes the EDM scene very different from rock or other genres. |
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I agree completely but this might be another issue... a lot of the big names seem to play the same sets full of big tracks and proven hits wherever they go. It is rather boring for anyone who has an ear for music and quality taste... the fast food of DJing, really: you know to expect a certain quality but it's the same thing every time and you will never be blown away.
I don't think it has a lot to do with the tools of the trade, mind you... that's just the business these days.
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zafer
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 23:35
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one interesting thing he talks about is that magical moment when 2 tracks are blending during transition: it often happens that people on the floor smell something is going on and some undefined energie pervades the floor, and people are just like yeah gimme more, even if not's a climax transition or significant build-up.
ever noticed that during transitions suddenly people turn their heads towards the decks and check what's going on with a look in their eyes full of curiosity satisfaction and expectation ?
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