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Intense endings of songs
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Conny
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Posted : May 18, 2008 15:33:53
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Hi !
Anyone who knows how to achieve intense endings for songs.In many genre´s a lot of stuff seems to be happening in the end of the songs and they seems to be more "chaotic" then the other parts of the songs.
I would be very thankful for any advice on how i can make more intense endings for my songs. |
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bandarlog
Bandarlog
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Posted : May 18, 2008 16:26
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For me it's a logical consequence of spending lots of time on a song. you build a song, several parts and you structure them according to what is needed at that moment (in the song). When you reach the end of the song you have that much material to choose from you can make it as big as you want it to be.
More concrete tip: when you have leads: bounce, layer, make variations on the theme etc. At the end you can layer all those parts as you please.
 http://www.soundcloud.com/bandarlog
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/bandarlog-memoirs-of-the-moment |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : May 18, 2008 18:54
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makus
Overdream
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Posted : May 18, 2008 19:50
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orgytime
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Posted : May 18, 2008 19:55
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i like it, when the characteristic melody (what you know from begining/mid-part of the song) kicks in at the end where all comes together... thats the moment when you´re thinking of, how great this whole song is 
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subconsciousmind
SCM
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Posted : May 18, 2008 23:01
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Check my music.. I'm really into intense endings.
I don't have a receipe...
Well.. just give all you have
Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch |
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 18, 2008 23:04
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Listen to some classical compositions or If that don't float your boat try Radiohead/A Perfect Circle/Tool' they do some very good tracks that build up well to an epic finish.
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : May 18, 2008 23:43
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Medea
Aedem/Medea
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Posted : May 19, 2008 00:50
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hehe for now i like more tracks with endless techno feel, with no start and no end =) for me it's hard to make such track, my tracks always have this "intro" and "intense end" shit... =)))
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psylevation
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Posted : May 21, 2008 19:25
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Start from the end and work backwards 
~Airyck~
~Unoccupied Mind ~
Psyowa! |
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makus
Overdream
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Posted : May 21, 2008 22:49
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OpenSourceCode
Datavore
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Posted : May 22, 2008 03:28
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learn music theory! |
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Medea
Aedem/Medea
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Posted : May 22, 2008 04:46
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A nice trick (but over-used, as everything else in psytrance:)) may be to pitchshift your bassline and some leads 1 semitone up or down, after a brake. This can add a new energy to the track, that is what you need for the intense end...
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : May 22, 2008 08:45
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i overload every part of the track.
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-aeon-
Aeon
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Posted : May 22, 2008 11:31
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i am a sucker for huge, involved, complicated intense endings.
they are very hard to get right - being able to bring many elements together for the first time in a track is technically difficult. when there's lots of stuff competing for space in your mix it's easy to fall into a cluttered, muted, woofly wall of sound.
you need to make sure that you're not giving any one element more space (in terms of level, eq, position) than it needs. once you've written all the parts, listen to things in isolation, then slowly build it up one element at a time, listening as every new part comes in. you will probably find that some stuff isn't really necessary - mute it and keep going. in many ways less really is more...
i prefer very intricate stuff with lots of little elements coming together. but sometimes you really do need to give space for different parts to breathe. this can be achieved through careful positioning, but it can also come from restraint. ask yourself if every part is really absolutely necessary to communicate your ideas... and don't be discouraged if it's difficult. to express ourselves succinctly is something every composer has struggled with; even Beethoven.
finally, despite everything i've said, don't be afraid to experiment with really big intense arrangements - you may have to work harder and try different things, but when it comes together it's wonderful. i tend to find there is a moment when it just starts to gel together and unify; you make an unexpected change and suddenly it sounds coherent. this is often a process of trial and error for me... and sometimes, it means starting again - cut the whole ending, paste it further down the timeline so you have it if necessary, and start the ending again. it'll probably turn out differently, and may well be heaps better. i think every track i've written has at least one extra ending which didn't make the final cut  |
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