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Innvasion Trance Festival - February 20, 21, 22 and 23

fReAkY


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Posted : Mar 1, 2004 08:58
DM TUNER : For what you said about 10 years of bla bla experience and more bla bla bla... it seems YOU ARE FAKE!!!!

From what i read your post... made me laugh.
First of all, you have no RESPECT and for sure, isnt a professinal dj. How do you go to a party with out closing the payment? How can you give a dam about what happen to you, many professinal artist, I mean BIG names, understands the situation of the organizers for what they need to take care of many, MANY things. I heard in another forum from many people that when they gived you the new time that you where sopes to play YOU DIDNT EVEN SHOW UP!
Why you are tell him to go to Israel? You think all artists from Israel is about bull shit? I bet your set has at least 1 track from israeli artist. You dont have respect!!!! You are a kid, that goes to all forums writing bull ... *#%! GET OVER IT! What are you doing in Brasil for so many time? You cant play in germany? No one from there knows you? Speaks and writes portugues perfectly... you are fake and uses germany to get some gigs. You whent to the festival so happy that you where going to play that when you got there the world turned around to your self. I have so many things to say to you, but forget about it... GROW UP.

-boom-
circle10


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Posted : Mar 1, 2004 23:53
Being in Brazil for the last 2 months I was glad to get to this festival even though the weather was not too kind. The problem with the festival WAS the toilets. I didn't like the idea of having to queue for the one loo. I didn't eat much to avoid the queue. I saw DM Turner on site but he didn't have a clue when he could play. Come on - let the DJs know something about the schedule !!!
cric


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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 02:32
I need to say that I feel very disappointed about the called "Innvasion-Trance festival".
Being a Brazilian living in London for 5 years, I was very excited to be in a Psycodelic-trance festival in Brazil, specially to hear the DJs.
The weather was terrible and the organization was just ridiculous. I think that sometimes you don't need money but brains to organize things.
The cars were passing in the dark just a few centimeters from our heads when we were sleeping inside the tents.
Was there any intelligence from the organiser to think about a car park?
There was just 1 toilet for possibly thousands of people, no food or even a cup of coffee.
The music was very boring and I couldn't hear the DM Turner. That was my main reason for going to Sao Carlos.
I hope the organiser doesn't treat people like that.
d.m.turner
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 04:40
@ Freaky:

You shouldn't discuss about things that you haven't even the slightest clue of, dude. There is no reason that you give your unqualified comments to things if you have no idea what really happened.
1) First of all I live in Brasil because my wife is Brasilian and I moved there because I want to be with her. She was also the one who translated the text into Portuguese... that's why there are no mistakes and for sure I don't need to use fake nationalities to get gigs. Maybe this methods seem familiar to you but not to me.
2) Second is that I play as dj in Europe since 1994 and earn a big part my income with this. I played in the Natraj Temple (as trance-music-enthusiast you probably heard about this club), in Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Luxembourg, Greece and various other countries.
3) Third is that no one ever gave me another time to play at the festival. After the soundsystem was debuild, the organisers prefered not to speak at all. Your comment concerning this is totally ridiculous, boy because you know a fuck what happened.
As user "full_on" posted earlier here, the organisators knew that they would stop and debuild the soundsystem at 1.00 o'clock in the night and didn't inform me of that... so what the fuck is your point? Just shut up if you are not asked. It is a complete lack of respect for the artists to inform you to play at 2.00 o'clock even if they know that the sound will not be working at that time.
4) In my set there is not 1 song of Israeli artists and I am very proud of that because Israeli music SUX. It is children's crap made for childrens to earn fast money. This music was actual 10 years ago and is simply a pop hardtrance. Not my cup of tea...
and yes, one little time you are right with your unqualified statements: I have absolutely no respect for them because with their attitude they destroy and exploit the trance-scene but to realize that, kid, you probably are too young and don't have enough experience to understand what I am talking about.
6) The statement from the organisers that I didn't show up is a simple lie. I was speaking to kk (one of the responsibles) many times - for example personally when I entered the festival - and he saw me a lot of times every 7) I played at a lot of bigger and most of all better festivals and spinning with nerds like Sesto Sento (whose set was simply ridiculous and one of the worst and uncreative I ever heard) is absolutely no honour for me because I don't respect these clowns at all.

So next time, when you think you have to open your mouth, think before you speak because your comments have not one relation to the real situation. You just speak about things that you have no clue of.

D.M.Turner (Psychedelic Infusion Germany)
Lucas Aly
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 13:55
Papa p, are you stupid or what? he just wrote above that his wife [from BRAZIL] translated the letter. There is no point in finding out if he is or isn't Deutch. This is completely off-topic and you should think before posting mesages in the forum, i'm not a moderator but i still not obligated to read the BULLSHITS you ppl write...

OFF-TOPIC , sorry.

PS: great words full_on [msg down]          we are one.
full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 13:55
What about stop disrespecting each other and everyone else around and discuss the real problem?

I don't care if D.M.Turner is a fake or not (by the way, if he's fake, why his name was written in big red letters in the flyer?). I don't care if D.M.Turner don't like israeli people and music (Though I think he would have respect for them, if you want to be respect you have to show respect. If the organizers disrespect you, it was the greatest fault of them, don't do the same mistake. This is the ISRAtrance, how would you expect someone to respect you if you're saying bad words about all israeliens?).

I care about being at a Festival where half of the International attractions on the flyer just don't play. The same happened with some Top national DJs. The goal here is to help the organization don't make the same mistake twice. For this to happen, the organizers should act responsibly, accepting their mistakes and showing respect for the artists and the crowd.

Please stay on-topic.
Respect!
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d.m.turner
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 20:30
@ Papa P:
Your arguments are simply ridiculous. What are your points proving? Nothing I guess. I am not here to discuss with you about whether I am German or not, because that's simply non-sense, ridiculous and children's shit. I am here to complain about serious issues and disrespect that the organisers show to the artists of the festival. If I really would be fake, so why the organisers put my name in big red letters as they did with all the headliners? And as I already posted above, my wife translated my letter into Portuguese, child. Come back if you have some real arguments, because you are just ridiculous and you can state nothing producitve to this discussion because you simply don't have a clue. That's it, kid. There is no use discussing where I come from because this is not important. It is a shame anyway like the organisers of this so called festivals acted and I wasn't the only artist treated with a lot of disrespect. There is no difference if I am from Germany, from the Kongo or from Brasil. Think before you speak or even better: just shit the fuck up if you have nothing to say!
D.M.Turner (Psychedelic Infusion Germany)

PS: Psychedelic Infusion is a party organisers crew I work for and Mental Arts is the record company I am label dj - so what's your point with that?
d.m.turner
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 2, 2004 21:30
@ full_on:

You really seem to be a clever and open-minded person and your arguments are exactly like the situation turned out to be at the festival.

A lot of respect and greetings to you. Keep it psychedelic.

D.M.Turner (Psychedelic Infusion Germany)
Bruno RT Piza |sinapsy|


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Posts :  118
Posted : Mar 2, 2004 23:18
I donīt wanna enter in this discussion about D.m.turner and the organizers, but I can say that this Dj have a good and diferent set, with influences from what some people called psytechno and dark progressive..... I listened to his set in Club A Ubatuba...very mental and psychedelic.... I agree when he said about this time of israeli psypop trance....           "Who is this doin this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin?"

http://www.sinapsy.cjb.net
http://www.killerloopmusic.com
http://www.tramavirtual.com.br/artista/aqa:mental
Danetz

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Posted : Mar 3, 2004 04:08
Fabian. Sincerely I was very sad with what you come speaking since the end of the Festival. I adored to know you and the Simoni and Andres Charroni. I adored the Deep Trance. It was a good party. I understand you yes, but Fabian I am finding odd this its behavior. I know that the Festival had its defects. The worse thing was the judge to have complained of the high sound, and had that to change the boxes of side. This was the worse thing that could happen. But it happened. E we made of everything, to solve the problem On what it happened between you and the Dj Kk, I I do not know. But the Kk would not make insult of you not. It knows Fabian... I would only like to ask for excuses to you for that he happened with you, therefore you I am not an bad person. I only wait that you it understands a thing, I made of everything for this Festival. I worked and I sweated therefore. E is not just you to generalize and to make dirty this Festival. For a thing that only happened with you. I know that the Innvasion had its defects, but for who it was present there, I I believe that the qualities had surpassed the defects... Thanks
fReAkY


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Posted : Mar 3, 2004 05:39
DM TUNNER:

First of all: I dont have any respect for you because you left it clear that your personalty doesnt respect the next person to you. You dont need to like to respect, you respect to earn respect. Sorry but I dont like your personalty. Maybe you had your point and I understod that but when you start to put the level down with no respect at all and go to all forums and posting the same thing, you totaly lost your point. My question is still: how can you with 10 years of experience, close a gig in a festival with out closing your payment? Thats is where I thought you where fake.

Sincerly, I work all around the world with trance ( I dont live in Brasil ) and never heard about your name. I also asked some German friends from your contry home and they dont know you and your work. Im not saying that you are fake ( even if there is still a dout ) maybe you are a dj from germany but you aren't even a producer to speak about other ARTISTS musics and stlye. I can agree that I dont like "chacota" music BUT you cant general it. Many israeli artist has the feeling and the talent like europians, south africans, etc... but you dont suprise me with your atitude for the personalty you have.

I will not discusse about this anymore because I respect the others readers and have more things to do in life then to discusse with a half inche person that doesnt have respect, starts from there.

-boom-





-=spectro=-
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 3, 2004 05:54
... hey guys; this discussion wonīt take u no

where, itīs all wasting time, ppl have different

opinions and views, plz quit disrespecting the

others in this forum or finish this by private

messages; thanxxxx

***ARE U CONNECTED???***
d.m.turner
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 3, 2004 17:59
I agree... this discussion here now is over at least for me. I said all I had to say concerning the festival and there won't be new comments from my side.
spirallianz


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Posted : Mar 3, 2004 20:48
Here some words about the discussion concerning D.M. Turner.
What heīs speaking about the organization of the Festival can not be judged by people who donīt know the real fact and i think that D.M.Turner would not lie and build up such history for nothing. It is his right to speak if he gets no respect and treated bad by this supposed DJ KK.
To say that heīs a fake DJ and that nobody knows him in Europe is simply not true, i saw him playing last year in Greece and also in Germany one time and for me he is a very good DJ playing his own style, very diferent from many others that just play the same sound all the time. Germany has thousands of DJs and artists so is impossible to know every name coming from there so it is not surprising that friends of user "Freaky" didnīt know D.M.Turner's name. If you donīt know just have a look in the chaishop and see how many partys exist there every week, much more than in any part of the world - simply impossible to know all the djs names, so i think this argument is ridiculous and childish. I think the people should think before critisize him, without know the real truth. And i also think that the organisers of partys that are starting now, should give first of all respect if they want to be respected, respect for trance and the artists and not just try to make money with the trance, loosing all the spirit and feeling.
Pepsy


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Posts :  2
Posted : Mar 5, 2004 15:16
What's up Danetz????
I'll send to you the pictures of the festival...it is very funny, you'll like it!!!!

Kisses.......
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