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IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 18:13
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On 2006-03-21 18:10, K - OS wrote:
...@psytones
...and why don't they just throw a party for him???
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Yeah, thats a very valid point. Guess their way ahead of us.. I cant belive that they wount do such things. Is this a hoax?
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Ben-G
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 20:08
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On 2006-03-21 12:40, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
Ok what I am going to say does not have to do with the person in this topic that got busted, but in general for the attitude towards dealers.
In my opinion all this compasion towards dealers that get busted is a lot of pretentious bullshit.
Some people in this thread talk as if drug dealers are some kind of victims!
As long as they make shedloads of cash whilst chillin at home smoking chillums, buying equipment, CDJs, travel all around the world to every single party and in general bumming around, they are smart.
When they get busted they are the victims of this cruel anti-shanti and unspiritual world?
What about the people who bust their asses working 2-3 part time jobs, whilst studying and in general can't travel around the world, or buy all their gear in one go, because the barely make enough to get by?
I don't wish for anyone to get what this guy is (apparently) getting. But cut the pretentious bollocks, epsecially when you know the rules of the game.
Dealers don't care for you, they just want your money, so they can live an easier life. They couldn't care less if they gave some fucked up acid that would send you straight to the madhouse. They deserve no glorification, or more pitty than anyone else. Everyone knows that at some point you get busted. The only way to avoid getting busted is to stop dealing and cash your chips in before the fat lady sings. If you can't accept that, you are either naive, or in denial. |
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I agree with you 100%
When you buy drugs from a drug dealer he sells it a bit higher then the price he bought it, why? cuz thats his job and he get paid for the risk of distributing illeagle substances. that means he takes the risk for you, so when he gets caught- you already paid the price for his "risk taking".
I love drugs and i do feel sorry for this Nico guy, but he knew what the risks are and he decided to take them.
Hope he will be ok and get out soon, cuz i also don't agree with the written law about drugs, but i ain't gonna donate, i donated enough money to dealers, he can ask them for help. |
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acidonacid
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 20:47
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I agree with both of you
 
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 23:51
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On 2006-03-21 23:37, Voxmulox wrote:
some of u wish to create a utopia where Drug Dealers are free to conduct their business...u want Druglords to take care of society..and make more drug addicts...
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im not sure this reality is much diffrent then the one we live in. what do u call Pfizer (makers of vioxx) and the other druglords then?
  "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 04:14
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i respect your opinion but i dont share the same view. blaming consumers for wanting a quick fix and the the part about ethics and such are the key problems i have with your words. these companies are not interested in anything else except their profit.... if it happens that cancer curing will profit them, then great... but its not their motive at all. the quick fix thing is something that the consumer is being subjected to and not the other way around.   "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 07:27
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well, if u feel like this topic shouldnt have been moved, you are free to msg the moderator who moved it, or the moderator of this section with a plea to move it back. there is no double standard here - and i dont see how this has to do with our site/forum supporting drugs. this issue is about a person from what i can see.
now regarding the validity of this post.... im not so sure about it, and although i wouldnt contribute money to this 3rd party without seeing more crudentials/connections/proof etc... everyone is welcomed to make their own conlcusions.
  "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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tranceTribes
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 10:44
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On 2006-03-21 07:54, Ankur wrote:
i think either its not the place to post it, but still i gave this 0.50 and if there would be the possiblity to spend more i would have done it then i have been to a goan local hospital and if a jail ist just abit worse then i will try to help every europien in a indian jail iam ask for to help.
you gave more tha the 0050$ you sent other 3$later thank you
also i think he did somethink stupid but i think with one month in a indian jail he served more then for it, also the live is to do mistake so u can learn from and he will probadly not have the chance to learn from it. so i try to give my very small help to give him the chance.....
have u tryed to dring indian local water?
thats just what i think :-)
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K - OS
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 11:59
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On 2006-03-22 06:43, Voxmulox wrote:
true...but this not about the pharma..its about narcotics...and illegal substances...and about trance scene supporting drug smugglers...is it any wonder that the US government wishes to pass the Rave Act? i think it shoud come as no surprize that final version of the Rave Act was renamed The Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act of 2003 became a law... so basically the more support the scene gives to drug dealers/smuglers the stricter the law gets...and there are and will be many more cases like that of Nico where his friends and family ask for the support of the scene and the scene gives it to them by means of cash, protests or whater..and that could be used as fact..and that fact will lead to a logical conclusion that the scene supports illegal drug use and sale...so there is obvisly no denying that scene supports illegal drugs...then why was this topic moved from the Trance section where it truly belongs to the links and off topic?
Why the hypocracy and double standards?
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And that's why nothing has changed in 5000 years of evolution,because the sheep are always frightend by the wolves,...
U say the more the scene supports such people,the harder the law gets...so what?So they are right cause they change laws into a direction that nobody wants?And that's why everyone of us has to hide,because no one has courage enough to fight for his right of freedom,for his right to decide for yourself what's good and bad for you...
So we'll all stay in a "golden prison",where we have all and nothing at the same time,but some people seem to like it that way....
Peace
 
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lokus
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 12:36
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its not about "right" and "wrong" or "courage"...
we dont make the law but we have to live with it.
be courageous and stand up and show your drug consume and you will get arrested. with that behavior u will change nothing. but it fits perfectly into the prejudice about drug people.
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 13:26
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On 2006-03-22 04:14, Surrender wrote:
these companies are not interested in anything else except their profit....
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You're forgetting the people who actually make the medicine. They're part of the company too are they not? Most choose medicine or biochemistry because they want to help mankind, not because it can be very frustrating work. Now research in this area is very, very expensive. You expect the company to use billions and then give the product out for free so they wont be able to develope the next product?
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K - OS
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 13:47
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On 2006-03-22 04:14, Surrender wrote:
these companies are not interested in anything else except their profit....
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You're forgetting the people who actually make the medicine. They're part of the company too are they not? Most choose medicine or biochemistry because they want to help mankind, not because it can be very frustrating work. Now research in this area is very, very expensive. You expect the company to use billions and then give the product out for free so they wont be able to develope the next product?
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Yeah right,and the companies wich make tanks,weapons and stuff like that are only interested in peace Ah,sorry I forgot,the people who work for weapon companies are interested in peace not the companies....
There might be some scientists who really want to help,but where do you think bio - chemical weapons come from?
Everthing got it's bright and it' dark side.
IMO here on Earth money is the dark force,and everyone no matter if they want or not supports it.What brings more money to give or to take.-------> That's capitalism.....
 
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tranceTribes
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Posted : Mar 22, 2006 14:58
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i read all the posts
and pm to same
but i stell wont to make clare
this
i am not political
i do not care abouy politik
i am born in this planet society was here long before i born
i accept totaly the fact that the magiority of the people in this planet wont drugs to be inlegal
i totaly accept the fact
and i am not complaining that nico was arrested the low state it that is inligal
i am not tring to makea drug dealer came aut of jail
not at all
i feell that every human deserv dreinking woter and decent food
any one that go in jail in europe amsrica japan have the right of drinking woter and decent food
in india with no money you can not have that
so i am ting to be fare
i am not against drugs and not pro drags
not pro society not against society
i live here in planet hert
and i try to make my self usefull in a positive way if i can
thank to the support i feel the tribe is gathering here in isatrance
thanks
to the rest i respect inmensely the point of veaw of all
if you belive in it who am i to change your mind?
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