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lokus
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 12:40
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On 2006-03-21 12:21, tim@motion wrote:
..."George cocas is busted at florida miami with a kilo of cocaine...please he loves psy trance and we really must help him"
...


yeah and he is so a nice guy and he doesnt deserve it...
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 12:40
Ok what I am going to say does not have to do with the person in this topic that got busted, but in general for the attitude towards dealers.
In my opinion all this compasion towards dealers that get busted is a lot of pretentious bullshit.
Some people in this thread talk as if drug dealers are some kind of victims!
As long as they make shedloads of cash whilst chillin at home smoking chillums, buying equipment, CDJs, travel all around the world to every single party and in general bumming around, they are smart.
When they get busted they are the victims of this cruel anti-shanti and unspiritual world?
What about the people who bust their asses working 2-3 part time jobs, whilst studying and in general can't travel around the world, or buy all their gear in one go, because the barely make enough to get by?

I don't wish for anyone to get what this guy is (apparently) getting. But cut the pretentious bollocks, epsecially when you know the rules of the game.

Dealers don't care for you, they just want your money, so they can live an easier life. They couldn't care less if they gave some fucked up acid that would send you straight to the madhouse. They deserve no glorification, or more pitty than anyone else. Everyone knows that at some point you get busted. The only way to avoid getting busted is to stop dealing and cash your chips in before the fat lady sings. If you can't accept that, you are either naive, or in denial.
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K - OS


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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 12:54
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On 2006-03-21 12:40, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
Ok what I am going to say does not have to do with the person in this topic that got busted, but in general for the attitude towards dealers.
In my opinion all this compasion towards dealers that get busted is a lot of pretentious bullshit.
Some people in this thread talk as if drug dealers are some kind of victims!





I think they ARE victims in a different kind of way...
They are victims of a system wich makes confusing laws and orders...
Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?
          
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KakoOlalaJwal
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 12:58
Oh oooh

Looks like I'm a bit late, hmm ?
Well I'll move this topic into the links section, and there TrancEist will decide if it has to be locked or not..

Have a good day you all..           .
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 13:08
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On 2006-03-21 12:54, K - OS wrote:

I think they ARE victims in a different kind of way...
They are victims of a system wich makes confusing laws and orders...
Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?




Confusing laws my ass. I'm sure he thought selling drugs in India was perfectly legal just like it's in almost every other country in the world too, right?

Would you also defend a serial rapist cos he was also confused?

Now I don't know how the Indian prison system is nor do I care as I'm not planning to risk going there. This guy did, tuff for him that he was caught.

If you really want to do something try suing India in Hague

If their prison really is like you say it's, well that's one more reason for all of us to never go there. Boycot all Indian products. Complain to Hague about India breaking the human rights.. etc
          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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K - OS


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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 13:57
Quote:

On 2006-03-21 13:08, traveller wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-03-21 12:54, K - OS wrote:

I think they ARE victims in a different kind of way...
They are victims of a system wich makes confusing laws and orders...
Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?




Confusing laws my ass. I'm sure he thought selling drugs in India was perfectly legal just like it's in almost every other country in the world too, right?

Would you also defend a serial rapist cos he was also confused?

Now I don't know how the Indian prison system is nor do I care as I'm not planning to risk going there. This guy did, tuff for him that he was caught.

If you really want to do something try suing India in Hague

If their prison really is like you say it's, well that's one more reason for all of us to never go there. Boycot all Indian products. Complain to Hague about India breaking the human rights.. etc




Sorry Traveller but you just wrote 100% bullshit man,u really compare a drug dealer with a serial rapeist,are u still sane?Everything allright with u?Does a drug dealer come to you and say you better take this stuff or I'll beat the shit outta you?I don't think so...ok law's aren't confusing and that's the only point that you make in your whole post           
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 14:01
Quote:

On 2006-03-21 13:57, K - OS wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-03-21 13:08, traveller wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-03-21 12:54, K - OS wrote:

I think they ARE victims in a different kind of way...
They are victims of a system wich makes confusing laws and orders...
Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?




Confusing laws my ass. I'm sure he thought selling drugs in India was perfectly legal just like it's in almost every other country in the world too, right?

Would you also defend a serial rapist cos he was also confused?

Now I don't know how the Indian prison system is nor do I care as I'm not planning to risk going there. This guy did, tuff for him that he was caught.

If you really want to do something try suing India in Hague

If their prison really is like you say it's, well that's one more reason for all of us to never go there. Boycot all Indian products. Complain to Hague about India breaking the human rights.. etc




Sorry Traveller but you just wrote 100% bullshit man,u really compare a drug dealer with a serial rapeist,are u still sane?Everything allright with u?Does a drug dealer come to you and say you better take this stuff or I'll beat the shit outta you?I don't think so...ok law's aren't confusing and that's the only point that you make in your whole post




Just as valid as the analogy you made..

Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
K - OS


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Posts :  192
Posted : Mar 21, 2006 14:25
[/quote]

Just as valid as the analogy you made..

Would you also defend a law wich says you have to shoot drug people?

[/quote]

That's just a question,some people answer it you just turned around my whole point so in the end it hadn't to do anything with the point I wanted to make....
And I just asked because I wanted to know if you or anyone would defend every law like in this case....
          
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 15:14
K-OS I think you belong to the "in denial" group, but after the pms we exchanged, I am saying this in the most kind harted manner.
We all enjoy doing naughty things and I understand why you are biased, but failing to realise the dangers and consequences is stupidity to a criminal degree!
You think a dealer should not be treated very hard? Tell that to a mother that lost her kid after they got given bad drugs by their friend who also happened to deal a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
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K - OS


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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 15:57
And exactly that happens only cause it's illegal,so on black market there's no control,there's also no age limit,there isn't any classification,there's just money that makes the rules...

Ok,your post brings me to a new level,where I have to say everyone who's selling crap, dirt or poison (real poison like strychnine) to other people should be arrested and judged hard,but he still isn't the only one who's guilty.....

btw I didn't understand whats the "in denial" group,also not the most kind harted manner.

Please explain it to me,because my vocabulary isn't very good
          
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lokus
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  684
Posted : Mar 21, 2006 16:17
yes drug taking/dealing is illegal
thats the way it is. and no stupid hippie speech will change that...
and btw some drugs are illegal for good reasons.

peace
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- trick music
- ambivalent records
myspace.com/lokuz

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volvox box 2
Infect Insect
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Posts :  235
Posted : Mar 21, 2006 16:55
damn man that sux
ii wish i had a credit card
K - OS


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Posted : Mar 21, 2006 16:57
Hey I don't want to change laws....I respect them more or less and I know the consequences of my acting or handling very well,but why should I position myself behind some ridicolous law book?
I think I've said this more than once...IMO any law isn't worth the paper it's written on...
I had a very good friend,he was busted in Germany with a big ammount of MJ,they gave him 5 years!!!

OK now you'll say it's his own fault,he knew it.....blablabla
What do you think we told him???That it's a good idea to smuggle 5 K over the boarder?
No definatly not,we were like you...everyone told him don't do that,are you insane?
And I think your totally right if you say now that he's harvesting the fruit of his own dumbness...

But is it really sooo bad?Or is it really worse than a rape?Have u ever questioned who makes laws and why?I'm pretty sure you have

So to bring this to an end,LAWS ARE LAWS that's matter of fact,but please never stop questioning every law and order you get           
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Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  6106
Posted : Mar 21, 2006 17:56
Well I got a card, and I'm more then willing to donate. Problem though. I wish to donate 20 dollars, but it sais I can only donate 0,50 dollars? ... Help me, and I'll give my aid. Will my 20 dollars even make a difference? Hope it's not a hoax.. Bad karma if so.

Edit: Well, at least I payed the 0,50 Dollars. But I have some doubts that this "aid" will help? .. How much will you need in total?
K - OS


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Posts :  192
Posted : Mar 21, 2006 18:10
...@psytones ----> how did that happen???

...and why don't they just throw a party for him???
          
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