makus
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Posted : Feb 19, 2013 23:20
Basically I'm with Ricardo here. The music market definitely needs QC. What's the point of trying to sell anything if it is not going to sell anyway?
Replying to Pom's post how to control the quality. Well, I think the first control instance should be the label itself. Label's A&R man have to decide if the music is good or not - the way it was back in the day.
The motivation for the label to release quality music only should come from distributors who declare some sort of an "entrance fee" for a label. Label should pay for bringing the music to distributors anyway - if music is good or not - but if it is good it would sell out and the label get the money back. If the music is bad it wont sell and the label goes bankrupt.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 00:53
kinda agree but if the music don t sell much but it still good ect..lol it s all about money and not music quality i have afraid.
makus
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 01:00
well yes, but money is handy way of rugulations here i guess.
generally i think it has to be more like that: hard to release (because of the strict QC) but really easy to expose your music for free or donations via services like Soundcloud and Bandcamp. In this case labels will get more money, while services with hosting music - bigger lol
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 01:05
but yeah it really need qc ,right now it take too much effort to buy music and in the end i don t buy ,can spend much time into it to find great tunes ect... one of the problem is that people dont even find music worth buying.
theirr is plenty of amazing music but it s way harder to find it than 10 years ago with all the release.
maybe should come back listening some psy radio more often..djs work to make qc
Mathura
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 03:18
Yes...
Everywhere is a lot of work to do...
(This topic is interesting & funny)
Labels should only release thoose kind of music they like and the quality they like and which is saleable.
Of course! Its their label, it their work, its their buisness - Its easy: Label says yes - Producer is in the game.
High-End is High-End, in the moment, as in the '90 - A few moments later it might be old school and "unhearable" - Maybe for some/a lot of people.
(Good) music is (good) music. (Good) buisness is (good) buisness - And inversly. Its a question of the attitude.
And: Music is culture.
Older big music people often told "music buisness is a hard buisness" because of the commercial background.
And thats the difficult point of the commercial intensions and the music culture.
Its good when its possible that peolpe can choose between this or that High-End-Quality-Sound to buy - (when its possible to choose between to much)
Maybe as long as it does not mean that they choose between this canned music or that canned music and only one intension in the background:
"MONEY"
A lot of people would like to be able to life from a dream-profession as a musician or a music seller...
On the other side is the (often innovative) "freeware-sound-scene", which is happy, that people listen once or twice or more times to a song of them,
cause there is SO A LOT OF ELECTRONIC-MUSIC around - Free and in the stores...
Psytrance was an uncommercial scene - and - started for example with Atari,Midi and of course Vinyl,
and was (here in germany) between 1990-2000 close to the peolpe of the left NONE-MTV hippie-punk-crossover scene.
Psytrance was (and maybe its still) a alternative to the alternative.
And the quality of the sound quality stood behind the intensions of the sound and the rise of the accordingly cosmic spirit in our minds and the clear pictures of an accordingly culture. The "Teamspirit" of exchange of energy, life, love or even money was maybe a little bit more balanced ...
And the only real hard work (civic education) is to bring a cosmic spirit and the accordingly culture into the society...
For me its as yesterday so today... With good High-End sound quality or less good sound quality... But with good intensions everytime welcome...
However, a lot of people do a great thing,
all over the world... and a kind of commerical or public is needed to be on stage with the music or the truth...
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 05:27
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On 2013-02-19 03:33:16, speedsound wrote:
All new entries must be pre-approved by our distributor
Will evaluate the quality of the songs and real sales potential.
All cover art must have a professional design, amateur art with releases will be automatically rejected.
Soon we will get a huge list of releases that are deleted, the reasons are:
- Low sales
- Bad quality of music
- Bad reputation of the artist
thanks!
Hey speedsound
Could you share a few tracks from your label that are meeting the high standards?
I'm curious
Mathura
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 05:51
And... Just for fun... Something without words about soundquality, soundintensions, (sound)culture and development...
Everyone has his intensions...
And still we are one - Whether we like it or not... But better we like
Good luck everyone...
Mathura
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 06:38
I forget something... Whats the differnce ? You know it...
And excuse me, if i maybe overused this topic...
Good luck everyone...
faxinadu
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 06:49
well i would be happy if beatport and other sites took some of my releases off, that way i can be released from some shit contracts and labels that have done nothing other than post them on download sites, and get control of the music again
The Way Back
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 11:35
do you really think, guys, that the quality of music is related to the difficulties of business ?
that people will start to buy because the music is good ?
i remember when i bought vinyl records, the quality wasn't equal on all records,
and so what ?
bad productions have always existed. who can imagine a market with only good music ? LOL
more productions, less money. nothing to do with quality.
like i use to say: there is no unknown talent. if you don't succeed, ask you the good questions
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 13:01
quality is not related to standart audio quality
there are many ways of discribe quality on a release:
- singularity
- originality
- its complexity
- the tecnique aplied
so many things you can judge a release of being good or bad, it havent anything to do with being "mainstream" or comercial souding...
its like any other media content, and its not even a matter of taste, quality its a matter of how strong, and solid a product is...
when sound unfinished, unpolished, unlogical... or when simply doesnt make any sense or its cheeasy like hell... it suck... i doesnt have quality
its pretty simple, and it doesnt necessarly is related
to styles of music or if its underground or not...
makus
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 13:25
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On 2013-02-20 11:35, specymen wrote:
do you really think, guys, that the quality of music is related to the difficulties of business ?
that people will start to buy because the music is good ?
i remember when i bought vinyl records, the quality wasn't equal on all records, and so what ?
but the music was good!
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bad productions have always existed. who can imagine a market with only good music ? LOL
more productions, less money. nothing to do with quality.
sure that's not possible! but it is possible to try to regulate the flow of releases.
i mean there should be such conditions created when a young producers get more benefits from uploading their music to, say, Soundcloud than releasing it (physically) via a label and not selling a copy.
It could have been a decent release if it didn't sound so cheap! Which really begs the question: if they could produce a decent tune, why couldn't they be bothered to use some better synths instead of built in Sytrus starter presets?? In terms of "quality control" however, I believe that everything deserves a listing as long as the artist(s) did their best to produce a quality song, because let's face it...some stuff gets put out on the market that you can tell was just whipped up in a couple minutes with hardly any skill, care or effort at all (dare I mention that godawful Basshunter song?) whereas other songs are held back because they don't rake in money from teenyboppers that just want some catchy cheesy simple annoying little dance number. I believe this commercialism and obsession with monetary success is what has ultimately destroyed electronic music as a whole. Just an opinion though, feel free to disagree.
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Mathura
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 15:03
A lot of the spoken words here make sense...
We should not blind out whats going on. All culture becomes more and more commerciial attributes.
And please excuse me, this is an unpolitical forum!!!, but the commercial roof above us is the established world-wide politic of 2000, which shows clearly the directions and it takes a lot of work to be in life without that builded laws without loosing some parts of a culture which is open minded. We should not forget, that we all live in the frequencies of a strong mechanism - You know what it is...
When some distributer sell Samples, Patches and Templates and promise that brings peolpe to "next Level of Production" and people become more and more sample throwers in the wish to reach the target on the marketas fast as possible, its a new commercial.
What a promise for young producers - What kind of spirit of promises.
Too much producer ? To much promises ?
The real knowledge sometimes is hidden - Experience take time in life - Also the knowledge why it happens as it happens.
In the past labels sold vinyl and cd's. Now they sell bits and bytes. Its all virtuell. Like the money thing - More than 90 % is virtuell.
Its a questions how to act with the possiblitys and how we are able to culturerize.
Again, the "Teamspirit" of exchange of energy, life, love or even money was maybe a little bit more balanced.
The party (cultural meetings) scene is a big basement of development.
The comsic spirit of psytrance is allmost transfered to the next generation and they can do with it what the want to do with it...
Look the Voov in '91, the people on the floor were with each other, with the spirit, the DJ was a natural part of the Party( cultural meetings).
Look at the modern Partys (cultural meetings), the people are mostly faced to the DJ - (Remember Faithless - God is A DJ)
Is it understandalbe, that a lot of peolpe (DJ, Producer) would like to earn that kind of energy ?
A strong example on youtube, also what is the sound culture: VuuV 2011 Mainfloor #1 (HD 1080p).
Again, the "Teamspirit" of exchange of energy, life, love or even money was in tha past maybe a little bit more balanced...
This is no critic to anyone or anything.
Its a question how much work does it take, to have a balanced life and culture of an accordingly cosmic spirit...
Also in the music, equal which intensions...
Good luck everyone...
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 18:53
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On 2013-02-20 06:49, faxinadu wrote:
well i would be happy if beatport and other sites took some of my releases off, that way i can be released from some shit contracts and labels that have done nothing other than post them on download sites, and get control of the music again
lol
