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If your mixes lie to you...read this....
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brasirc
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Posted : Oct 2, 2007 21:36
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On 2007-10-02 20:15, Chemogen wrote:
How can one tell if they've damaged their ears, though? I was listening to Metal at high volumes on my iPod for years, I don't have any ringing or hearing damage and thing I can discern the differences between frequencies quite well, but how can I be sure I'm not hearing things totally different to everyone else? |
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hey...thank god you`re actually hearing...
that should be enough anyway, if you consider that a trained ear mean you have listened to alot of stuff already...and are quite familiarized with sounds overall...the same fact also damages a ear in a way (if you want to look at it from that point of view anyway)... so in the end....there is no trained ears without listening to alot of loud music your whole life...therefor, slowly damaging your listening...
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Oct 2, 2007 23:55
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I'm inclined to think that after a certain point it all becomes subjective.
If you are comfortable with your system, and its level of accuracy (whatever that may be) what is the point in changing it around?
I mix out of a focusrite saffire LE - I really like the sound of it and the mixes I produce on it. Other people tell me my mixes sound nice too (if a touch bass heavy - not the card or the monitors fault - mine, I know its bass heavy  ). What do I monitor on?
A crappy Sony hifi system, the right speaker has a dented driver cone thingy, and its about a third of the size of a regular monitor.
I have pictures to prove, if needed. 
The point I'm trying to make is, that knowing your kit really really well is invaluable (for instance, I know my speakers bulge at 129hz), and after a certain point the steps in getting better kit become very small and incremental. I'm sure my mixes would benefit from proper monitors - don't get me wrong - but that doesn't mean my mixes are bad now.
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Seppa
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Posted : Oct 3, 2007 11:43
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On 2007-10-02 23:55, Speakafreaka wrote:
I'm inclined to think that after a certain point it all becomes subjective.
If you are comfortable with your system, and its level of accuracy (whatever that may be) what is the point in changing it around?
I mix out of a focusrite saffire LE - I really like the sound of it and the mixes I produce on it. Other people tell me my mixes sound nice too (if a touch bass heavy - not the card or the monitors fault - mine, I know its bass heavy ). What do I monitor on?
A crappy Sony hifi system, the right speaker has a dented driver cone thingy, and its about a third of the size of a regular monitor.
I have pictures to prove, if needed.
The point I'm trying to make is, that knowing your kit really really well is invaluable (for instance, I know my speakers bulge at 129hz), and after a certain point the steps in getting better kit become very small and incremental. I'm sure my mixes would benefit from proper monitors - don't get me wrong - but that doesn't mean my mixes are bad now.
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Ya!...but I know some really good guitar players who actually have shitty guitars. Its great but when I hand them a good guitar its another league. In other words skills are very important and that include knowing your equipment but I'm sure a skilled person with better gear will most probably do better mixes. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Oct 3, 2007 13:09
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yeah - I agree 100%. It can take a surprisingly long time to adjust to new monitors though... one of the most difficult aspects of music production to me.
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Psytracked
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Posted : Oct 3, 2007 18:23
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Speakafreaka I find myself agreeing quite strongly with your post.
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Of course the tools can help. From my experience the room acoustics are more important than the monitors and converters but its not always that black and white. 2 different people can be given the same equipment and 1 of them could do a much better job than the other. Training the mind to better understand the information the ears receive is, I believe, of more importance.
How many people listen to some reference material in the studio before mixing? If everything is relative as Einstein claimed then surly a reference for the mind/ears is essential.
I for sure would love a better converter, better room acoustics, a second pair of monitors, better mics, pre-amps and outboard. I don't have the money and i really don't think its going to improve my songwriting. Surely the music is the PRIMARY importance. If you put shit into a exotic converter you will get polished shit come out the over end. Its still shit at the end of the day.
Another thing that I think gets overlooked sometimes is the end user. Is the average record/CD/Mp3 buyer going to notice that you used a $4000 converter instead of a $300 unit?
The manufacturer's I'm sure will say they will.
I personally have found that consumerism can get in the way of what really matters. |
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