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Ideas for creating an 'analog never the same/inconsistent' feel
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jsrobinson
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Posted : Feb 10, 2012 09:07:56
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Hi all,
I was reading a technique on creating some variation in digital synths to emulate analog inconsistency. The idea was to create 2 chains off of an instrument and EQ/chorus them a bit differently.
But, this got me thinking, what other techniques and tricks might folks be able to come up with to create a similar analog "never the same" feel? With analog gear from what I'm gathering was the fact it never quite stayed the same, and you never got exactly the same sound twice.
I'm looking for very subtle, almost subliminal tricks that might add some similar very slight randomness. Let's share some ideas! |
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e-motion
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Posted : Feb 10, 2012 12:29
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Some ideas:
- Some synths have analog knobs that add randomness by themselves (FM8 for example).
- Don't sync the OSC's (combine with unison, detune).
- Duplicate the synth channel, do small changes on envelopes, lfo speed, filter position, etc. Pan them differently.
- I also like a very subtle and slow lfo on the pitch, that can't almost be heard.
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wizanda
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Posted : Feb 10, 2012 16:27
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Albertos
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Posted : Feb 10, 2012 16:59
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+1 to e-motian said ! Try to use double channel with different lfo's type and detune it
One more thing from me : feel free with your creation no rules you know , your imagination will do all job !
just comress that vsti's little and put on AFTER compression chorus fx ! You can also send not comressed channel to reverb fx you know for some space ! all this simple variation will give you difference in same digital boring sounds !
Experement with overdrived filters send vsti's on them comressed them ...
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 10, 2012 17:25
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that not cause it s don t stay quite the same it sound great , that just a little factor imo, randomness don t really turn a digital sounding synth at sounding analog imo cause there is some bigger factors, like osc and filters sound.
about subbtle change, you can try some slow lfos (or something else) with not much modulation range on everyhting you want like filters, tune,phase,envelops time and shape to archieve a less sterile more organic sound |
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piko_bianko
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Posted : Feb 13, 2012 05:04
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haha soz for wrong answer  delete this please extreme |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 13, 2012 05:35
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well one of the things you could do would be to put a slow LFO on the phase of your oscillator - as analog synths do the phase drift thing.
Omnisphere has a handy "analog" knob for this!
you could also apply a slow lfo *very very tiny amount* to the tune/pitch of your OSC for subtle variation
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faxinadu
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Posted : Feb 14, 2012 16:13
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as said, put very slow lfos with a tiny tiny tiny bit of depth on every parameter you can. i find that sines or are ideal. if you are in a modular environment, take an lfo, put it on random/sNh mode, and then output the lfo to a lowpass filter (6db/oct should do the trick), and from the filter output to the modulation destination. this will smooth out the slope and give you a very twisted and subtle wobbly lfo, ideal for this "analogish" feel. you can play with the filter cutoff to find your sweet spot.
also, if your synth/modular's evelopes allow for it, modulate the adsr stages very very very slightly. if you have a slope option with modulation input on your envelopes, modulate that.
remember, the key is the modulations need to be very very very very very very very very small!
another thing i like to do is modulate my lfos speed very slightly with another lfo. interesting things when they are both beatsynced (or not)
a key thing you can explore, is puting modules that interact with the source sound according to its volume/balistic direction/frequency content, as linked above my post, things like tape saturation effects.
one last small tip, a very subtle flanger mixed slightly with the dry signal can give you that fucked up tape pitch sort of vibe.
good luck
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faxinadu
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Posted : Feb 17, 2012 08:41
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thought of another key idea i forgot, automating the resonance by a small random amount. maybe with the same technique as i described above, take a random generator and smooth it. maybe a bit of a faster lfo this time so every trigger is different, but again with very very very small depth.
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