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i would to like get some advices for my mix
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dj chichke
Chichke
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Posted : Dec 15, 2009 04:09:57
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https://download.yousendit.com/Z01OOU1RMm1laFFLSkE9PQ
i finished the track.and all midi is exported so i would like to get some advices to make a decent mix, powerfull and clean! i have good monitors and treated room so i'm ready to bleed from my ears till it be good!
p.s: if you like melodic fullon so i would love to know what do you think about the track. |
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Psybro
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 09:30
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gonna give it a go and get back to ya asap  ok |
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pr0fane
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 10:21
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The leads sounds a little bit too loud compared to the bassline here, and they are also a bit too sharp and shrill to my ears - but I think that's mainly just a matter of musical taste, so don't think you need to do anything about that.
Maybe a bit more variation in the sounds used would be nice. Good work overall though.
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 20:04
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On 2009-12-16 10:21, pr0fane wrote:
The leads sounds a little bit too loud compared to the bassline here, and they are also a bit too sharp and shrill to my ears - but I think that's mainly just a matter of musical taste, so don't think you need to do anything about that.
Maybe a bit more variation in the sounds used would be nice. Good work overall though.
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Also I would say the intro didn't provide much direction, even though it was long it wasn't apparent when the beat would come. Maybe add smaller sounds to get more of a buildup feel.
And one more thing, what does your meters show? Unless you had put a limiter or so on the mix, it was VERY loud mate. Remember to have headroom. |
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dj chichke
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 20:54
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thanks for the comments.
my meter is not more than 0. just in some places with crashes and lots of things that start playing together. i didn't use limiter on the master. i think that the leads are too loud in this mix so maybe that's why it's seems to you louder than it is.
how is the bassline? a friend of mine said that the dynamic bitween the kick and bassline isn't good. i don't agree with him. and he say some stupid things sometimes...
anyway thanks for listening and i would like to hear more comments please! |
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Psybro
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 21:40
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Woah! Nice one mate 
Yeah the leads are loud, but i hate the fact sometimes that i can't hear the leads properly in some tracks i have heard! This is ok for this one in my opinion.
Jeez, the whole thing is just Mad! xD
Keep the best vibes rollin' ;D |
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Dec 16, 2009 21:54
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On 2009-12-16 20:54, dj chichke wrote:
thanks for the comments.
my meter is not more than 0. just in some places with crashes and lots of things that start playing together.
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Ok that's what I thought. You have no headroom at all, and when you do hit those peaks above 0 you get clipping/distortion. No channel should ever go above 0 (unless possibly if you have an analogue mixing desk, but still never for the full mix) Try having the mix _peak_ at something like -10. Lower the volume and you'll be able to mix better + you have headroom for mastering...
Bass sounded fine but I was listening on crappy laptop speakers, not monitors. |
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dj chichke
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Posted : Dec 17, 2009 01:18
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thanks psybro! i'm glad you liked it!
inner demon about the headroom. i know that what you said is supposed to be right. but i did a course of electronic production, and what i learned is not to go more than 0. and also people say that in cubase the 0 at the meter is not realy a 0. furthermore -10 for peak it's very low! i thought you would say -3. or something. maybe we should open new thread about this thing because, for both of us it's better to be sure who is right about it. |
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exkor
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Posted : Dec 17, 2009 03:54
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Ok that's what I thought. You have no headroom at all, and when you do hit those peaks above 0 you get clipping/distortion. No channel should ever go above 0 (unless possibly if you have an analogue mixing desk, but still never for the full mix) Try having the mix _peak_ at something like -10. Lower the volume and you'll be able to mix better + you have headroom for mastering...
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I don't agree with you at all. This is one way to work on a track but it sucks in general. I've asked Erez Eisen from Infected how they master their tracks I learned a totally different technique which involves no limiters and no compressors at all but using your digital format (sound card) as a limiter itself basically. The end product sounds much better then export with -4dB, then add EQ + Compression + excitation. Listen to my stuff in the signature at Soundcloud, it's done with no compressor and the master bus is at +1 or +2db above the peaking point.
About the leads I like them at current level, I don't too quite leads, a lead is a lead, throw it in the face!
Overall I think the track is very good both from micro prospective (little things) and the bigger picture.
I might have added a few small things here and there + maybe play abit more with filter LP filters and that's it, it's a done product.
Good job bro! keep it up.
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dj chichke
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Posted : Dec 17, 2009 12:28
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On 2009-12-17 03:54, exkor wrote:
Overall I think the track is very good both from micro prospective (little things) and the bigger picture.
I might have added a few small things here and there + maybe play abit more with filter LP filters and that's it, it's a done product.
Good job bro! keep it up.
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thanks man!
i see you all fill that i need to have more sound variations so i'll do it. |
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dj chichke
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Posted : Dec 18, 2009 04:17
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more commnets and advices please! |
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dhaturaaaa
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Posted : Dec 18, 2009 07:08
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i think the sounds r prety good ,, nice flow , i like it keep it up
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Dec 18, 2009 16:47
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On 2009-12-17 03:54, exkor wrote:
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Ok that's what I thought. You have no headroom at all, and when you do hit those peaks above 0 you get clipping/distortion. No channel should ever go above 0 (unless possibly if you have an analogue mixing desk, but still never for the full mix) Try having the mix _peak_ at something like -10. Lower the volume and you'll be able to mix better + you have headroom for mastering...
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I don't agree with you at all. This is one way to work on a track but it sucks in general. I've asked Erez Eisen from Infected how they master their tracks I learned a totally different technique which involves no limiters and no compressors at all but using your digital format (sound card) as a limiter itself basically. The end product sounds much better then export with -4dB, then add EQ + Compression + excitation. Listen to my stuff in the signature at Soundcloud, it's done with no compressor and the master bus is at +1 or +2db above the peaking point.
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A huge number of people 'mixing in the box' do so with very high peak levels on each source channel; typically well up above -6dBFS. This results in the mix-buss accumulator having to accommodate signals with sample values above 0dBFS and the master output fader has to be pulled down to compensate. Although this absence of mix headroom shouldn't be a problem in theory, it appears that some systems (and plug-ins) do have a problem with it, and a great many users have found that leaving more headroom on the source channels avoids the problem completely, producing far sweeter-sounding mixes as a result. The old analogue concept of having 20dB or so of headroom was arrived at for a very good reason and has stood the test of time. The concept translates perfectly to the digital world, with the same practical and sonic advantages.
Technical Editor Hugh Robjohns, SoundOnSound Magazine
@exkor: we're not talking about how to master a track...
But at the end of the day, each to his own - do what you think sounds best! |
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Deranger
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Posted : Dec 20, 2009 17:42
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i think you need to work more about your mix.
the clap sounds too muddy,your leads sound too dry,the kick needs some more presence in the mix i would replace the kick,the bass is cool.
the overall idea of the track is fine,you have good ideas,but you need to know how to place them right in track,choosing the right sounds and work on your build-up.
good luck  |
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dj chichke
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Posted : Dec 20, 2009 18:09
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ofcourse i need to work on it! it was before the real mix what i uploaded. what do you meen the leads to dry? do i need more reverb? distortion? |
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