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Intertia
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 14:37:47
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To give up on psytrance, when I started a new project and the track started to flow pretty nice.
I just don't understand how sometimes I trick my own mind into thinking I am doing good work and its actually shitty and after a couple of days it turns frustrating,
I spend about 2 weeks listening to it about 30 times a day and pretend I like it.
Well I can atleast go to bed relaxed knowing I have some fun work to do tomorrow.
I think that when you start to think too much when writing it spoils the fun.
P.S. Merry Christmas isratrance  |
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Xsze
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 16:14
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I was forcing myself to make the music and than I just stopped doing that,I didn't do any serious business in weeks,from time to time I open DAW,make something in inspiration,than leave everything and enjoy.....
Doing that way I realised I have more quality productive time,more inspiration and fresh ears every time,and music making is really fun that way.....
Besides...I don't have deadlines or any kind of rush,just me and my music...
maybe my goal isn't making album or finishing songs, my satisfaction is to transform myself into my project,make journey of it's own and make something that represent myself.....
Find your priorities,unleash your passion and make fun of hard work,that's my advice
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Icetoon
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 17:24
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I have exactly the same problem. I start a track and I really like how it's turning out for the first 2 minutes, but as I constantly hear it, the passion starts to fade and it starts seeming shittier by the minute and I usually end up wiping everything I have worked on and starting over completely >_< |
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killik
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 17:40
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happens to me also. but i think u loose objectivity to judge how it actually sounds if u hear it to often. maybe show it some other ppl and let them give their opinion. it can motivate u to continue it |
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Suloo
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 19:40
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Find your priorities,unleash your passion and make fun of hard work,that's my advice
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+1  Wtgo -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.- |
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freechameleon
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Posted : Dec 25, 2011 22:20
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the longer you produce and the more experience you gain, the more you are able to produce exactly the things you want to do, so the more you will like and enjoy the music you have made.
just keep going and never stop learning.
(and what xsce wrote)
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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 26, 2011 01:24
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- Constantly compare your track to professional productions so you keep an idea of how close / far you are from actual success.
- Don't listen a lot to the whole track unless you have too. This one is specially hard for me, I can't remember the thread in which we had already discussed the effect of over doing the listening stage... but yeah somethings lose magic after various listens.
- This is completely normal as freechameleon states... we grow in experience and skill every minute at the daw. So will begin so see what it is that sucks in your tracks just after playing it a lot.
- Play it to your friends even if they are not psyheads, if you do that while they are present in the studio you will feel the music in a similar way than they do. I don't know why perception changes so much in but this one has helped me a lot to identify what works and what doesn't.
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Intertia
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 12:49
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Thanks dudes.
This one last track went pretty well.
It really makes me smile and makes me remember I've been doing some hard work
I was really frustrated last week though, I can't believe how close I was to giving up and kaboom a new inspiration was born
I thought this horrible cycle of unfinished work would never stop.
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 13:04
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On 2011-12-25 14:37:47, Intertia wrote:
To give up on psytrance
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Never give up ! (In everything ..) Your life be come more interesting ..
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I spend about 2 weeks listening to it about 30 times a day
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Thats good .
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I think that when you start to think too much when writing it spoils the fun.
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Dont think too much , You should feel ..
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Nectarios
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 13:13
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It all has to do with the way you look at things.
You make music because you love making it.
You should never feel like you have to measure up to something or someone in the way that if you are not, you should give up on it.
Be in awe of people who make brilliant music that "pisses" over yours and use that to have a good dance/trip and aspire to make something that will make you dance/trip in the studio.
Peace out.
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daark
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 14:12
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Hey, it is a good thing to realize that what you've done came out as shit. That is the natural way of getting better and gain experience in the field. You are getting better and knowing more and learning in the process. Yes its not your debut EP yet.
But... So what ?
It is even bigger than psytrance. You gain experience in writing music. In producing and mixing. You can't expect to make something super good without the experience.
People get experience from decades of making rubbish and experimenting, trial and error and learning. It's natural to comeback and see after a while you made rubbish because and knowing how to do slightly better each project. This is the only way of doing it.
You want to make a track that is that or a track that is this. First of all you need to make about 100 tracks of the genre and then you might understand abit about how it goes there.
Have an open mind to learn. Don't expect too much of yourself. You can't expect to play guitar 2 years and become a superstar in a day. It is just not the way it goes.
It is some pretty insane industry. Realize you can count on your hand the people who just sit at home and release tracks on left and right. Alot of tracks go through many hands. Specialy the more commercial releases. Getting mixed, remixed, mastered, edited, reeditet, different versions of mixes and masters and then more than a half goes to the dumpster. If you do make some pretty heavy shit from your home studio straight away you must be really good and have tons of expereince, knowledge and talent and i mean the quality stuff.
Must say that alot of this is based on pure show-off and selling your name as a brand and not the music as art. That is what people want. To show off with they're music, man. The super psychedelic stuff only the most psychedelic people can listen to ..hahahaha. Even myself it is art you know. Some people think its shit some may say you are a genious. Do what you feel like.
 Enjoy And Happy Holydays !!!
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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knocz
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 17:02
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On 2011-12-29 14:12, daark wrote:
Hey, it is a good thing to realize that what you've done came out as shit. That is the natural way of getting better and gain experience in the field. You are getting better and knowing more and learning in the process. Yes its not your debut EP yet.
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+1!
I find making music to be an never ending story telling, because I'm never 100% satisfied with any of my songs: and that's why I make the next one If I could have my perfect requiem there would be no point of going on, but since I'm so picky and love the journey, I'll never reach perfection.
Some days you're blue and some days you're glue. Just stick with it.
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jsrobinson
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 22:04
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Yes its not your debut EP yet. First of all you need to make about 100 tracks of the genre and then you might understand abit about how it goes there.
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Not enough gets said about this IMO. I know personally it's sometimes hard to listen to my favorite producers' earliest material, that's still stellar in my eyes, and accept that they too have reams of crap that never saw the light of day.
I sometimes wish I could listen to that early material as encouragement. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 22:10
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jsrobinson
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Posted : Dec 29, 2011 22:17
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On 2011-12-29 22:10, willsanquil wrote:
simon posford said that LSD was his 'first trance track'
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His first released trance track. It's not like he just sat down one day and pulled that out of the void.  He also said that the reason he got into trance was the challenge at the time of creating it when he felt there was little quality trance available.
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