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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 13:07
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 ...Papua New Guinea was released in 1991, sorry.
And I'm not saying myself that this is the best dance tune ever, it's been oficially voted like that in England...and I agree.
I'll finish with my favorite quote.
"Good artists copy...Great artists steal.(Pablo Picasso)"
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maux
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 16:15
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yo Justin...
I loved FSOL...isdn was playing in endless repeat on my system for years...but they steal....a lot...and I think they have been overrated expecially from the english press (off course).
as much as MBM has been underrated...infact Jack Dangers happyly moved to SF where does lots of soundtracks now (A Scanner Darkly).
I don't like Pablo Picasso paintings, sorry...neither his philosophy. ;-)
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corta mocas
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 16:37
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ei you guys you are overpopulating this thread with the fsolies he he...
orb-blue room
its one of those that i never get tired of
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The Chilling Spirit
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 18:00
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If there was no evolution (building new things on top of others) then music would ultimately wither. And if something great like Papua New Guinea is created from something boring like that Babylon track I am very glad that people copy from others. I wonder where the "woo" "alright" samples are copied from and how that makes that source better than the derivate. Music is about taste.
That Rabbit In The Moon track reminded me of their track South. Another great classic.
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maux
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 20:06
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before "radio babylon" there was nothing like that...nothing...it may sound just like a funkydrum to you....but it did kickoff a lot of the stuff you dancing now.
(chemical bros and prodigy and tipper and many more coming out of that root).
great remix from andy wheatherall (2 lone swordsmen)...who did a great remix of papua too....probably he did the drumbeat of both....anyway...
my reminder is:
Holger Czukay: Canaxis - 1969
probably one of the first albums done using samples...tape loops.
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zalabim
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 20:20
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Four cary nuts - wierd egg
Psychopod - Stop the carnage
Little blue men - Herb superb
Man - Cucko
Shin - Scary
Flipping Bixies - Marketan valssi
Quirk - Dance with the devil
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zalabim
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Posted : Mar 30, 2008 21:39
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Seems like I can´t read, that this tread is on the ambient and chill section ... (hehe)
So Ignore my post above..Good oldies but it seems like i´m confused, the tracks I just mention is offcourse not chill out...
so here it goes, perhaps more suited in this section...
Ozric tentacles - Jurassic shift
the Orb - Pomme Fritz
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visine
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 02:45
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On 2008-03-30 20:06, maux wrote:
before "radio babylon" there was nothing like that...nothing...it may sound just like a funkydrum to you....but it did kickoff a lot of the stuff you dancing now.
(chemical bros and prodigy and tipper and many more coming out of that root).
great remix from andy wheatherall (2 lone swordsmen)...who did a great remix of papua too....probably he did the drumbeat of both....anyway...
my reminder is:
Holger Czukay: Canaxis - 1969
probably one of the first albums done using samples...tape loops.
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Did you see that short movie?
It actually plays the original record on it and the famous breakbeat section that later got sampled buy many. That "funkdrum" as you call it is the mother of every broken beat used in electronic music. If MBM didn't use it directly they took it from someone who did from the original "Amen Break" record, so to say that FSOL "stole" it from MBM is the same as saying MBM "stole" it from Amen Break. The original source of both broken beats is the same. |
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maux
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 15:53
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On 2008-03-30 20:06, maux wrote:
before "radio babylon" there was nothing like that...nothing...it may sound just like a funkydrum to you....but it did kickoff a lot of the stuff you dancing now.
(chemical bros and prodigy and tipper and many more coming out of that root).
great remix from andy wheatherall (2 lone swordsmen)...who did a great remix of papua too....probably he did the drumbeat of both....anyway...
my reminder is:
Holger Czukay: Canaxis - 1969
probably one of the first albums done using samples...tape loops.
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Did you see that short movie?
It actually plays the original record on it and the famous breakbeat section that later got sampled buy many. That "funkdrum" as you call it is the mother of every broken beat used in electronic music. If MBM didn't use it directly they took it from someone who did from the original "Amen Break" record, so to say that FSOL "stole" it from MBM is the same as saying MBM "stole" it from Amen Break. The original source of both broken beats is the same.
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if it was that easy to do a killer tune...anyone who sample that amen break could do one...try!
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visine
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 19:59
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On 2008-03-30 20:06, maux wrote:
before "radio babylon" there was nothing like that...nothing...it may sound just like a funkydrum to you....but it did kickoff a lot of the stuff you dancing now.
(chemical bros and prodigy and tipper and many more coming out of that root).
great remix from andy wheatherall (2 lone swordsmen)...who did a great remix of papua too....probably he did the drumbeat of both....anyway...
my reminder is:
Holger Czukay: Canaxis - 1969
probably one of the first albums done using samples...tape loops.
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Did you see that short movie?
It actually plays the original record on it and the famous breakbeat section that later got sampled buy many. That "funkdrum" as you call it is the mother of every broken beat used in electronic music. If MBM didn't use it directly they took it from someone who did from the original "Amen Break" record, so to say that FSOL "stole" it from MBM is the same as saying MBM "stole" it from Amen Break. The original source of both broken beats is the same.
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if it was that easy to do a killer tune...anyone who sample that amen break could do one...try!
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I never said it was easy.
I'm just saying that MBM track isn't any more "original" or "authentic" than FSOL "Papua New Guinea"....contrary to what you seem to be implying.
Both took the same basic ingredient (broken beat, voice sample etc.) and created something else with it.
Anyways, my contribution to the thread:
Orbital - "Halcyon + On + On" |
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NNDMT-AUS
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Posted : Mar 31, 2008 23:51
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On 2008-03-28 19:23, Justin Chaos wrote:
Yo Maux...mate, sorry but for me FSOL are utter geniuses, same as MBM.
I just always loved FSOL, their concept...they way the played in the nineties via videostreaming.
And overrated or not...they did inspire an enormous amount of people to start experimenting with music and video.
Rich kids with computers???
Maybe, but...they made their mark, and when they needed to explore other fields such as instrumental music, they blew me away with Amorphous Androgynous.
And if you talk about overrated...please check some of the names included in the lists of this very Thread, you and I are discussing about MBM and FSOL while other people is posting Talamasca.
BTW: Here's Radio Babylon
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=8ILqfpDD6XE
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Totally have to agree with you there.. FSOL are utter geniuses !!!
Its been a while since I listened to them.. but they still sounds refreshing even today !
+ thanks for the youtube link..
''Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.'' or more pertinently: ''Let not your mind run on what you lack, as much as on what you have already.''
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Apr 22, 2008 07:25
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Prem Joshua - Dakini
god bless this man for this tune
the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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Abasio
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Posted : Apr 22, 2008 14:52
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The Infinity Project - The Answer
no discussion, just go and listen to it 
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Outolintu
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Posted : Apr 22, 2008 15:38
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On 2008-03-30 13:07, Justin Chaos wrote:
...Papua New Guinea was released in 1991, sorry.
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oh man, you totally spoiled my day 
i saw your 1st post about papua new guinea here and was thrilled by the idea to have the chance to correct your false data. not fair! 
my chip of g'day:
oskar sala: subharmonische mixturen (cd album)
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Oskar+Sala
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moksha_mind
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Posted : Apr 23, 2008 00:05
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details from discogs..
"Oskar Sala (1910, Greiz, Germany - 2002, Berlin, Germany) was one of the most innovative composer in the history of electronic music. His instrument, the Mixtur-Trautonium was first introduced to the public in 1952 and soon received international licenses. Its massive architecture remains so unique that nobody is able to reproduce the instrument nor interpret any of his compositions"
quite a statement there, and I'll agree. nothing sounds like a trautonium. very unusual indeed. I've got the similar fax release of this and I'll never forget the first time I heard it.  very distinct sounds.
definitely a must for anyone exploring the first glimpses and explorations into the electronic ether...
"The sparrow is sorry for the peacock for the burden of its tail" -Rabindranath Tagore
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