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I think i stole someones riff?help

kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Apr 29, 2011 22:22:26
So i got nexus yesterday and made this little bit right away(its a preset..im not good to make anything like this yet)and it sounds familiar..anyone?


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loki
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Posted : Apr 29, 2011 22:40
lol i steal riffs whenever i want, from wherever i want.

all the time.

there's no problem with it whatsoever in my opinion, as long as you aren't copying whole songs and claiming they are your own.

half of the time when i write a song, i go: "hmm, i want bass like the first drop of Phutureprimitive's 'Kinetic' with percussion slowly building like in Tetrameth's 'mother tongue' and the exact lead melody of Vibrasphere's 'follow me' except with the chord progression of Tristan Boyle's 'softly'"

in fact, that sounds like an aweasome tune. maybe i'll go make that now.

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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Apr 29, 2011 23:03
ok cool....btw if i could steal tetrameth's "tank face" i would..craziest song           www.soundcloud.com/kabbalisticvillage
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Bipolar
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Posted : Apr 29, 2011 23:13
sounds really cool!
orange
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Posted : Apr 29, 2011 23:52
ok i suppose this conversation is about recreating the feelings and sounds and not sampling the exact content...?           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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aciduss
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 00:36
Oh come on, in 4/4 music pretty much every riff possible has been used by someone else.
loki
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 00:44
exactly - recreating the sounds and feelings.

the OP was talking about a riff, though, and imo that's just fine as well. sometimes i really enjoy a certain groove on the dancefloor, and i remember the pattern so i can use it in one of my tunes.

obviously the OP didn't resample any song, he just feels that the riff he made was something he heard somewhere... and i was saying, pfft, who gives a fuck? when i make a kbbb pattern and realize a week into tweaking the tune that it's the same kbbb riff as tune i own, i'm not going to change it just to be different. it's not like i'm stealing their song, far from it - i'm using a bass groove that inspires me and making it something entirely different.

that being said, some artists DO resample, and that's okay, too. for example, mashup artists make entire songs from 30-someodd 1sec-20sec pop/soul/jazz/rock tunes... and i think that's totally cool! they ARE sampling other artists, but the result is certainly not unoriginal. i'm heading to see Girl Talk live this summer for the second time, and it's going to be fucking awesome. i may well hear 400 different songs sampled throughout his set, all of which are copyright-protected (supposedly), and yet the result will be completely original.

i don't mean to thread hijack, but this is still on the same point: why the fuck care about taking a little dash of this, a little dash of that, from wherever you want, to make YOUR still very original music?           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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loki
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 00:45
Quote:

On 2011-04-30 00:36, aciduss wrote:
Oh come on, in 4/4 music pretty much every riff possible has been used by someone else.



this is also true, lol. "OMG! DID YOU HEAR THAT? ASTRIX COPIED THAT BASSLINE STRAIGHT FROM SPACECAT! OMFG HOW DARE HE!" holy shit, how many psytrance songs have monotonal KBBB over and over and over again? lol           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 01:19
yea but this one sounded way to familiar cuz its a specific preset...u r right though loki.Amd i love astrix basslines..what the heck does he use??           www.soundcloud.com/kabbalisticvillage
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Disrupted


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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 17:57
Seriously u wont have to mind about these kind of thing till ur making an official release.

On the other, yeah ive heard these kind of bass since the tb 303 exist and i wasnt born yet.

So yeah u probably did the same bass that other people did, so do i in a lot of my tracks, so do many other artist.

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Obelizk
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 22:58
sounds wubbly
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icedice
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Posted : May 1, 2011 12:43
Sounds very cool, I'm going to steal your riff right now!
jeeboomba
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Posted : May 1, 2011 19:55
i've noticed this too.. and have tried to think about it and heres something i found very nice...

"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."
— Jim Jarmusch
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : May 3, 2011 02:28
I do it all the time.





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Padmapani


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Posted : May 3, 2011 22:32
i took me half an hour of searching to find the track you stole the acidline from, but now i'm happy
sick tune btw
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