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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 02:47
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I'm slowly getting enough money to start up my bedroom studio. These are the things I plan to buy...
Behringer UB1204 Pro Eurorack 12 Input Mixer
Samson Resolv 65 Reference Monitors
M-Audio Studiophile BX5 Powered Monitors
Tascam US-122 USB/Audio Midi Interface
MidiMan Oxygen 8 Midi Controller
anything you would replace? Keep in mind I'm on a budget and don't want to go much outside this range. I plan on getting some hardware synths next time I get some cash (which explains the mixer).
While I'm on the subject, should the monitors be hooked to the mixer or audio/midi interface output? I'm not sure if there are any latency issues, so please help me out with that.
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 04:27
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actually, I'm thinking about changing the Tascam Interface to an M-Audio Audiophile USB Midi/Audio Interface because the Tascam doesn't have xlr or trs inputs. The Audiophile does have trs inputs.
If I run a trs from the mixer to the interface, will there be quality loss? I ask because the back of the mixer says that the xlr outputs are the main ones and the trs are "alt". Can someone clear this up for me? |
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Jikkenteki
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 04:56
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In general I would stay away from Behringer mixers. Several friends have had them over the years (including the Eurorack series) and pretty much all of them have complained that they are noisy. I have a Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro which is also a 12 channel mixer and it is great, not to mention built like a tank.
M-Audio stuff seems to be hit of miss. Alot of people have trouble with the Audiophile USB interfaces (I have watched a friend's crap out briefly in the middle of live sets on numerous occassions). Other people have had no problem with them, so set up could be an issue in numerious cases. I personally have an older pci Delta 410 and have never had a single problem with it. Is the computer you are using a laptop or a desktop? If its a desktop I would try and stay away from USB audiocards if possible, since pci cards are much more stable, have less latency, etc etc...
As for monitors, if you are running through a mixer, it is pretty much standard to run you monitors out of the mixer as well, although I'm sure there are as many routing variations as their are people making music.
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jhanna
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 05:04
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if its a laptop pc i would advice to go for pcmia soundcards--- usb really sucks and i don t find firewire reliable for pc laps |
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 05:47
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actually it's a desktop pc running winXP. so i should go for pci?
how about more suggestions for a mixer? |
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Pavel
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 07:35
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On 2005-01-13 04:56, Jikkenteki wrote:
In general I would stay away from Behringer mixers. Several friends have had them over the years (including the Eurorack series) and pretty much all of them have complained that they are noisy. I have a Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro which is also a 12 channel mixer and it is great, not to mention built like a tank.
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I'll second that. Both of the points. In the college where i studied i witnessed the weirdest combination. Pro Tools system that was routed to Behring Eurorack mixer. What a silly combination. 
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hip
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 12:43
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Although more expensive, maybe you can consider BX8 monitors? They have bigger frequency response, and they're a bit stronger. Also check out Tannoy Reveal Active.
I have an Oxygen 8 and I really like and recomend it.
Also agree about the Behringer, but Mackie is really expensive - so maybe you can try with yamaha mixers - I think its the good ratio of money paid and quality. |
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 14:00
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I have the Samson resolv65a and i like them very much, i don't know much other monitors but i can recommend them.
hip r u sure the BX8 have bigger frequency response and r stronger?
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 15:40
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I think instead of buying two pairs of monitors you should by just a pair of better ones, like genelec, mackie or dynaudio...
And instead of buying a mixer, an audio interface and a midi controler, why don´t you go for something like yamaha 01x? that will give you all of those things in a single package, plus effects.... |
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 18:47
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On 2005-01-13 15:40, FluoSamsara (Oxygen Records) wrote:
I think instead of buying two pairs of monitors you should by just a pair of better ones, like genelec, mackie or dynaudio... |
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oh, I didn't even notice I listed two. I meant to say that "I can't decide between the two sets of monitors." I have heard good and bad about both and I havnt had the chance to listen to either of them. |
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s0ft
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 18:52
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also, whats wrong with Behringer mixers? everyone says to stay away from them, but no one says why. can you explain it please? |
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orange
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Posted : Jan 13, 2005 21:37
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On 2005-01-13 18:52, s0ft wrote:
also, whats wrong with Behringer mixers? everyone says to stay away from them, but no one says why. can you explain it please?
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cos they have noise in and outs AWAY!!
go for the small soundcraft compact 4 or 10 realy good sounding cheap with d.i.s and mic preamps and...soundcraft!
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high tek
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Posted : Jan 14, 2005 01:50
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On 2005-01-13 02:47, s0ft wrote:
I'm slowly getting enough money to start up my bedroom studio. These are the things I plan to buy...
Behringer UB1204 Pro Eurorack 12 Input Mixer
Samson Resolv 65 Reference Monitors
M-Audio Studiophile BX5 Powered Monitors
Tascam US-122 USB/Audio Midi Interface
MidiMan Oxygen 8 Midi Controller
anything you would replace? Keep in mind I'm on a budget and don't want to go much outside this range. I plan on getting some hardware synths next time I get some cash (which explains the mixer).
While I'm on the subject, should the monitors be hooked to the mixer or audio/midi interface output? I'm not sure if there are any latency issues, so please help me out with that.
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screw the mixer - you dont need it.
add that cash to better monitors - get event stuff - best 'cheap' monitors.
dont get a usb sound card - pci instead (unless u have a laptop) |
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UIU
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Posted : Jan 14, 2005 04:42
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On 2005-01-14 01:50, high tek wrote:
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screw the mixer - you dont need it.
add that cash to better monitors - get event stuff - best 'cheap' monitors.
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I totally agree. If the soundcard you buy has lots of inputs and outputs (8 in and 8 out is quite enough) you don't need a mixer. I bought one and I never used it. How many hardware synths are you planning to buy in the future? For up to two synths you will be covered with an 8 in 8 out soundcard.
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