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I know da Bassline solution (long awaited)
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 15:33
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1. Spectrasonics Trilogy VST -> dont use preset use the pure waves (this is the why Trilogy rox, because it have the sample of the greatest analog bass machines)... cronox and pentagon is good for darkpsy... as albino junglist and some another stuff is good for psy, but trilogy for psy... hmmm... delicious
2. Regulate the filter (first activate it, like lp2, or 3 or 1). then add a bit of envelope, then regulate the filter envelope, put on solo mode, and choose the curve, the third one is cool.
3. regulate the length of the notes, to coincide with the bpm and kick in a good sound.
4. process it with sonalksis multiband parametric compressor.
5. then process it to the waves req6 for example, for frequency scuplting
6. if the tail of the kick is taking the same place of the first note of the bbb, put the tc sidechainer, (don't forge of always reactivate the key input when open the document on cubase, blablabla), if you must use the sidechainer don't forget too of fine tuning it, to stop the kick tail distortion, while don't loose the bassline presence.
7. finally you can play a little bit with the difference of the velocity of the notes, like kbbB, etc... fine tuning too
8. don't forget that your kick is very relationated with the bass, so one change another
9. don't forget to put on the master channel, a mastering plugin OZONE, and activate the parametric eq for a light tuning, multiband harmonics to add some exciter on low and highs (more on high)... and a little of multi band compress, to enfatize de mid (body), stereo imager to add some air on the high freq. don't need to use loudness maximizer (loose dynamics), neither reverb.
10. to ensure that your mix is loud, disable temporary the ozone, and mix a small region of your track, and open it on sound forge, the waves must be very high on the most soundfull parts.... (you got the idea, simply open a IM track for example, they don't use loudness maximizer, but have very high volume, without losing volume differences of the track, and compare the wave drawing)
11. Eleven and last trick: i use winamp to hear songs, so i turn off the winamp eq, its bad, so i use a dsp vst adapter on winamp, to open the electri-q on it (the best master equalizer). so i have my electri-q with a fine tuned preset, that i LOAD TOO on the master channel on cubase, (after the ozone), that when i publish the song i deactivate it before.. so i can work on my track with the SAME result of a finished track that i hear with superb quality on my winamp!!!
P.S: don't forget that windows have 2 paths which the audio driver is mapped, they give you different sound (principally if you use 5.1 system), so u must configure the cubase with the same path of the winamp, and it's the Asio directx full duplex (in my case, i've a nvidia onboard soundcard, but i wanna buy an emu 0808 (or least 0404), to have asio 2.0 native drivers at cheap price with high quality board).
I HOPE THAT I'VE PUT AN END (long awaited) to the nightmare, remember, i believe that exists another ways, but before trying the another ways, ACHIEVE THE PERFECT RESULT at least ONE TIME! then once you'get happier  you'll experiment another ways with a smile on the face...
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sideFXed
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 15:51
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LMAO you da master
btw I'm pulling your leg!
nr. 10 is actually a really good tip
I'm not so sure about your mastering chain tho. Don't you think using sonalksis, ozone and all this stuff makes it too complicated.
All I do is set the bassline synth right, use some eq before and after a harmonic enhancer (eg voxengo lf punch or waves maxbass/rbass) then sidechain it via a trigger (waves c1-sidechain). route the whole thing on a group, get the levels straight ... bounce it (your tip nr. 10) and when the WHOLE mix sounds good, go for the big tools.
saves me alot of cpu and pain in my head. but at the same time I gotta say I've got long way to go. soundcloud.com/epsylohm |
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z1P^
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:11
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this guide seems killer brother!!
i'll try it as soon as possible!
big respect!
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providing shamanic euphoria until the end of the days! |
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:21
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Okay take a look, i've corrected something on the tip 10. Once you got the levels on a good wave drawing on forge, you can use the ozone -3.8 loudness maximizer... and the parametric eq on ozone for a little eq, u can do little high slopes, on sub and bass, to give a punch... (experiment) |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:28
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yes but what does it sound like? Post a sample mp3!
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On 2006-04-07 15:33, Azucryneo wrote:
I HOPE THAT I'VE PUT AN END (long awaited) to the nightmare
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Im doubt it. Even if your technique works, people still have to tweak everything to make it sound good. So now people will be asking for the settings of all the plugins you mention.
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:36
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After 1 year experimenting, i wanna give the WAY, at least the WAY, i can pass the parameters as screenshots... but the WAY is good as start to tweaking...
i was a long time so frustrated in ways that even with tweaking, not gived me results... |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:49
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Let the people learn to use the tools and their ears I would say. But do post a sample so we can hear your results.
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:00
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Trilogy total bass module, cames with acoustic, electric and synth bass, take a look on the trilogoy SYNTH BASS:
(remember the power is use the waveforms, not the patches)
Trilogy is one of the most awesome Bass Synthesizers ever made!
Have you ever struggled with trying to fit your synth bass sounds to sit in a track properly? The sound of Trilogy is not only ultra-fat, but it sits great in a mix. That's because we've created high-resolution core samples from legendary Analog Bass Synths like the Minimoog™, Roland Juno 60™, Roland TB-303™, Roland SH-101™, Oberheim™ SEM, Moog Taurus™, OSCar™, Access Virus™, Yamaha CS-80™, Arp Odyssey™ and 2600™, Studio Electronics SE-1™, Omega™ and ATC™ Tone Chameleon, Sequential Circuits Pro One™, the mighty Moog Voyager™ and many others! Trilogy's multimode resonant filters allow you total control over the sound, while still retaining the original character and power of the classic analog instruments.
Each fully programmable layer has its own multimode resonant filters, four LFOs, three envelopes, adjustable sample start and matrix modulation. There's also an additional master filter for quick tone shaping.
In addition to gigabytes of high-resolution sampled vintage synth waveforms, and thick multimode resonant filters for each layer, Trilogy has the rare feature of smooth analog synth-style Legato triggering and Glide that software samplers lack. This capability allows for Synth Bass sounds that truely play like a vintage analog synth. This feature can also be used with any of the Electric or Acoustic Basses, for unique hybrid Bass sounds that you've never heard before!
Whether you're looking to anchor your mixes with a giant vault of amazing Bass presets, or you're searching for a versatile instrument to create your own unique Bass sounds…there's no other Bass instrument out there with the tone, variety and flexibility of Trilogy -it's simply in a class by itself. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:04
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samples from legendary Analog Bass Synths like ... Access Virus™ |
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Lol.
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:09
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:10
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Sure interesteds, add me on msn, i've send a track that i'm started to comp, because now i can comp in peace.. without that damn problem... in this track i'm using squaw waveform (square/saw bass, like of survival kit - psysex)...
No... i'm not a salesman from spectrasonics, i just telling you my experience, and the "WHY" of the solution.
And is so obvious that i never will show only bass, but the complete solution hahaha! i'm not amateur  i don't like psytrance with poor quality, i guess that psytrance must be made by people that also is the technician |
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:20
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:27
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I can post 3mb on yousendit? i've never used it... |
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Azucryneo
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:32
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what's recipient email for? |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:34
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Use your own email. It will mail you the link to the file. You can copy the link here.
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