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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 15:10
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A genre of music can be a lot worse than a lot of specific tracks
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 16:42
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On 2005-06-08 06:51, Dr. Mez wrote:
1) A group of people tends to be dumber than a single person thinking for himself.
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A group can be much smarter than a single person.
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2) A genre of music can be a lot worse than a lot of specific tracks.
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Some specific tracks can be much worse than a genre.
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3) When a group of people likes music, it's usually a genre, at the very least, much more so than a person's own private taste.
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U act this way?
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4. Groups of people tend to like worse music than people thinking on their own
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If u like worse music, it isn't worse for u.
For someone else it seems to be worse, but for the one who likes it it is good.
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Peace
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Dr. Mez
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 17:24
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On 2005-06-08 16:42, EYB wrote:
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On 2005-06-08 06:51, Dr. Mez wrote:
1) A group of people tends to be dumber than a single person thinking for himself.
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A group can be much smarter than a single person.
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Yes, but as I said, a group CAN be, what you said in no way denies that. And in average, groups of people tend to do stupid things. Aliens land on Earth - what'll you do? Well, think a bit, prepare for whatever... BUT, there will be the groups of people looting, destroying things, shouting in the streets "THE END IS HERE!" and so on. And I'm assuming that one person can act as the group, or if he sees the group, he can also make a choice not to act in accordance to the masses.
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2) A genre of music can be a lot worse than a lot of specific tracks.
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Some specific tracks can be much worse than a genre.
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Yes, but I'm not talking about bad tracks, I'm talking about the good ones, so your point is entirely irrelevant.
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3) When a group of people likes music, it's usually a genre, at the very least, much more so than a person's own private taste.
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U act this way?
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Yes, I don't like boyband-MTV music / Britney Spears / whatever music. I think it sucks. Do I say that I don't like it to my friends? Definately, I ask them to turn off the radio when it annoys me. When I'm at a party and everyone's dancing and there are good vibes, even if the music isn't 100% to my taste, I'll still dance and have a good time. Gave you examples both negative and positive, does that make me a monster of some sort?
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4. Groups of people tend to like worse music than people thinking on their own
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If u like worse music, it isn't worse for u.
For someone else it seems to be worse, but for the one who likes it it is good.
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As I said - if you don't use the word "genre" in why you like music, you probably enjoy music because of it's merits, and not because it's in your face all the time.
Four more or less irrelevant points.
Peace indeed. |
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 17:59
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blah blah blah....boreing...worse than MTV!
Dr.Mez u are really dissapointing me! i thought u will only get worse...but your getting better...fluffy....ewwwwwwwwwwwww!
Cheers.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 18:29
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>Yes, but I'm not talking about bad tracks, I'm
>talking about the good ones, so your point is
>entirely irrelevant.
Aren't we talking here about the law of averages. I mean it is basic statistics.
>Yes, but as I said, a group CAN be, what you
>said in no way denies that. And in average,
>groups of people tend to do stupid things. Aliens
>land on Earth - what'll you do? Well, think a bit,
>prepare for whatever... BUT, there will be the
>groups of people looting, destroying things,
>shouting in the streets "THE END IS HERE!" and
>so on. And I'm assuming that one person can act
>as the group, or if he sees the group, he can also
>make a choice not to act in accordance to the
>masses.
First, I think you watch way too many Hollywood movies. Groups are slower to react, but when they finally do they are relentless and spot on. Angles the individual could not imagine are covered. I even think if you get a group of average Joes and a Super Genious... it could be a fair battle. The group can divide their learning experience, cover so much more material in a smaller period of time... but the bottle neck is consensus. I mean why are we social animals... because we survive better as individuals? Uniting in groups brings us strength since the dawn of time.
>Yes, I don't like boyband-MTV music / Britney
>Spears / whatever music. I think it sucks. Do I
>say that I don't like it to my friends? Definately,
>I ask them to turn off the radio when it annoys
>me. When I'm at a party and everyone's dancing
>and there are good vibes, even if the music isn't
>100% to my taste, I'll still dance and have a
>good time. Gave you examples both negative and
>positive, does that make me a monster of some
>sort?
I think you are making a huge inference here. The issue here in not the collective taste of a group, but their access and interest in music. If it was by choice and ppl had access to all knowledge of music, then you might be surprised on the collective level of taste under your own tastometer. Now since we live in a capitalistic society and the group is contantly conditioned by an elitist power group to consume a specific type of product... Pick bilboard and get the first top 40 and choose you favorites... voila that is the reality for a lot of ppl, since their senses are contantly capitalized through the duration of their lifetime. P2P networks are not a real threat to sales for corporations. Actually every year earnings are higher. Now P2P networks are a threat for corporations in the sense that can change the way ppl think and their taste, as they discover new music and get out of the corporate grid. So blame the dumbness of a group not on its members, but on this ocult center of power who have slaved their minds to a vast array of attachements, and who create the illusion that this is the right way to live our lives. Consider yourself lucky. |
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Ott^
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 20:53
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Are we still responding to the retarded teenager who thinks he is Bill Hicks?
Erm... "monkey spunk".
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:00
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dr mez
Yes, I don't like boyband-MTV music / Britney Spears / whatever music. I think it sucks. Do I say that I don't like it to my friends? Definately, I ask them to turn off the radio when it annoys me. When I'm at a party and everyone's dancing and there are good vibes, even if the music isn't 100% to my taste, I'll still dance and have a good time. Gave you examples both negative and positive, does that make me a monster of some sort?
if you say you dance you are a part of the bubble |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:04
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5meo geo you see my point how you connect the the stuff you said about domo label to stuff mez said about the society i think you use the rent topic to bash the trance styles that you simply dont like
emm maby you are right maby not but i stil think mez ment somthing else and not if domo rec is a house label or not
or soumi music is most creative one |
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:05
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this topic is really getting sooo boring  , i would almost say it´s becoming a big pain in the ass  |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:06
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people if you dont like the topic
dont read it!!!!! heheh |
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:07
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anyway, lets all give dr mez and 5meo geo a big cheer, we´ve got a winner, i mean two winners
juice,juice,juice,juice,juice,juice,juice, juice,juice,juice,juice,juice,juice,juice. |
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magevet
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 00:39
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lithium!!!
next time u wanna write juice a million times, plz separate them with commas AND SPACES.
now my browser displays the page with loooooong cells :/
oh, and dr. mez:
i think the word u were looking for was mob (and mob mentality). but most groups r not mobs; most groups r societies, companies, families, etc.
i bet all this comes from being bullied as a kid... by other kids like 5-meo-geo :P |
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 04:19
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*Lithium's post has been edited for the good of the mob/soceity/company/family.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Liquid-Vision
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 08:00
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On 2005-06-08 21:06, psy^soldier wrote:
dont read it!!!!!
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oh but its soooooooo tempting. With over five thousand unique views, almost 16 pages of material, I really cant resist.
We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home. |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 10:09
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lol! |
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