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daark
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daark
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dj chichke
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 12:37
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On 2010-06-17 10:40, daark wrote:
so basicaly like this if you need to be -3db
and your panning law is set to -3db
than when you are at 0 db you are actualy at -3db ???
right?
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i don't understand your wuestion. but i think you think too much. if your kick is -10db and the mix is good, so your mix should be around -3db at the busy parts.
but don't think too much. work with your ears. listen to artist that you like his mix and try to make resembling mix. |
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daark
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 12:55
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On 2010-06-17 12:37, dj chichke wrote:
work with your ears.
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but i have to know those things so i could use my ears the proper way...
for example if i need to cut air in some part or realy low frequencies it something u learn you can't probably hear that...
 http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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daark
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 13:10
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On 2010-06-17 10:40, daark wrote:
so basicaly like this if you need to be -3db
and your panning law is set to -3db
than when you are at 0 db you are actualy at -3db ???
right?
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no it is not -3db
haha i'm talking to myself X_X
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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Disciple
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 14:18
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sounds to me like painting by numbers not by ear. |
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daark
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 15:08
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if you see brown shit on the painting
there is a difference if the shit was drawn with knowledge of master or it is just an amateur shit
even shit u need to know how to paint by laws if you want the shit would be recognized as it is 
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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Suloo
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 15:24
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On 2010-06-17 14:18, Disciple wrote:
sounds to me like painting by numbers not by ear.
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usualy you paint with your ear? 
not be offended..
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 16:27
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posting numbers on the net, regarding mix levels is irrelevant. You could have a kick peaking at -10dB with a compressor set with a ratio of 10:1 with 0 ms attack, or have an uncompressed kick with no bottom end and a massive transient...etc. same for the rest of the elements of the mix. know what i mean?
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 17:28
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It is helpful though- getting approximate levels for different sounds really helped me out a lot when I started.
Shouldn't be too difficult to pick a good sounding kick, set it to -10db, then mix everything based off that. No one needs to stick to those approximate numbers, but they help a lot more than having no idea. "Use your ear" means nothing to a beginner. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 17:54
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On 2010-06-17 17:28, Ascension wrote:
It is helpful though- getting approximate levels for different sounds really helped me out a lot when I started.
Shouldn't be too difficult to pick a good sounding kick, set it to -10db, then mix everything based off that. No one needs to stick to those approximate numbers, but they help a lot more than having no idea. "Use your ear" means nothing to a beginner.
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You'd be surprised at the "different tastes" in kicks, people use when making tunes.
And a beginner will fuck up a mix even if they have a great sounding kick set at -10dB, unless they start "using their ears".
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daark
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 18:29
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n 2010-06-17 16:27, disco hooligans wrote:
know what i mean?
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yes.
it takes so much time to tweak all the right knobs in the exact position only by using my ears ...
that is it i will make experimental noise from now on
how should i use my ears that so would get an answer for my question ?
0 db and compressor(soft limiter) or -3 db and clean
what should i stick to? |
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Ascension
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 18:30
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Well yeah, but you can't expect a beginner to use their ears to set a kick to -10db. Having a general start point is better than nothing is all I'm saying (seeing as how this advice helped me when I started).
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 19:54
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On 2010-06-17 18:29, daark wrote:
how should i use my ears that so would get an answer for my question ?
0 db and compressor(soft limiter) or -3 db and clean
what should i stick to?
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Listen carefully to the tunes you like in your mixing space and get to know what your speakers and room sound like, in other words train your ears so that they get better at listening. Its not an easy task, we still find it hard to get things right, as our mixes are far from perfect.
Stick to identifying/choosing the right samples/sounds and don't mix into a limiter/compressor/EQ in the master channel and don't mix at loud levels, as your eardrums tighten up to compensate for the high SPL levels and your ears "resolution" becomes much lower (Fletcher & Manson curves).
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daark
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Posted : Jun 17, 2010 21:19
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