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IceThunder
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Posted : Jan 24, 2005 19:08
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kaz is right more than hundered percent.I think scene isnt moving forward cause of hyper production,and when u have hyper production it comes to bad quality what we have at moment.Lots of artis today are dont have any idea of making some unique song,thay are just going to make something and thay dont care is that good or not.Artist today are acting like some famous rock stars wich sucks too much for me.Also when i see dozens of rmx's that have come last year story is even worst.Where are the ideas or there is just taking money main mission.I have just look scene and projects now and scene before 2000 and i have to admit that this style what we have at moment dont have anything with old spirit of goa and psychedelic trance.Put in cd's some mystica,mwnn,chakra,california sunshine and comapre with todays hyper productions songs wich have, only diference in names of tham and u will see the point.When ppl stop to watch profite and start to make and go to trance cause thay love than scene will make progress,with this 'wanna make more money' attitude wont be any progress at all
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 02:10
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xtc has turned psy-trance into house music.fuck the clubs,fuck the labels and run to the outdoors.there are the sanctuary of psychedelic trance.and turn your back(instead of f..k,cause they don't worth it) to atmos(as an example)and to any atmos who in every chance he declares that he is so sick of psy-trance and he is getting wealthier by playing to full-on gigs around the global.exclude the hypocrites and support the real psy-acts .u know who they are .they are the players who set the kick and a twisting rotor in the middle and they are fighting with it until they reach to a conclusion.u know...psychedelia:)
I know that I am a little off topic but I was deeply disturbed by kaz's true words and I just wanted to xpress my opinion also.thanks for your tolerance:)
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furthur
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 07:19
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How about constructive criticism and some respect?
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 07:59
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On 2005-01-25 02:10, CRX wrote:
xtc has turned psy-trance into house music.fuck the clubs,fuck the labels and run to the outdoors.there are the sanctuary of psychedelic trance.and turn your back(instead of f..k,cause they don't worth it) to atmos(as an example)and to any atmos who in every chance he declares that he is so sick of psy-trance and he is getting wealthier by playing to full-on gigs around the global.exclude the hypocrites and support the real psy-acts .u know who they are .they are the players who set the kick and a twisting rotor in the middle and they are fighting with it until they reach to a conclusion.u know...psychedelia:)
I know that I am a little off topic but I was deeply disturbed by kaz's true words and I just wanted to xpress my opinion also.thanks for your tolerance:)
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 19:58
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On 2005-01-12 16:34, Yuli wrote:
To tell the truth the album with Danni could be at least 5 bpm slower on most of the tracks there and then it would hit the nail on the head much more then it did as it is now.
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hehe u sayin that someone forced u to certain bpm? is it for real? i got it right?
and btw - as suprize of the year was starring Freq.. should he raise his bpm too ? would it b more succesfull in any way? 
i think may b u felt like this from the wrong reasons and if u realy did it as u wanted to and not feel "pushed" by crowd or label... it might even succes not less..
so bottom line is anyway to do what anyone likes and not think commercially..
(and if do... wtf psytrance got to do with it???)
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Spindrift
Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 20:45
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People do seem to care quite a bit in here after all.
Firstly I can't agree that the scene is worse that a few years ago. There is a lot of hope IMO.
It could be a lot more interesting, and it might never reach the excitement it had in it's heydays.
But...one thing that always strikes me in discussions like this:
What genre is actually as exiting today as 10 yrs ago???
It was not only trance that was buzzing back then.
DnB, trip-hop, jungle, break beat, ambient and many other styles was pretty much invented at the same time and was heralded as the next big thing left right and centre.
How many new styles is getting formed nowadays?
How many genres of music has the same buzz and exitement as 10 yrs ago today?
The times is different and creativity and exitement is much harder to come by.
I was at overhearing the exact same discussion the other day between a couple of heavy metal fans.
Open your eyes and see the whole picture of how the music scene is in general.
I think you can look for people to blame as much as you like, the fact is that what it comes down to is that we live in times where it is a lot harder to be creative.
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jan 25, 2005 21:08
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Finally, a sane reply ... Well done Spindrift!
I'm with ya on that one. Adding to that: Good music isn't about originality at all. If a track makes you feel great it doesn't necessarily have to be original. Take Airwave - Ladyblue (Markus Schulz Remix) for example. It's a remix of the original by Airwave so it can't be called original at all. Yet in some way Markus' remix manages to touch me in ways the original never can. And why? Not because it is a remix, but because of the sounds he uses and the exact moments he uses them. It gives me a feeling. And that's what music is about. Good music was always about the feeling it gives, not if a track is original or not.
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 13:13
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dear spindrift , the fact is that the psy-people has started to act like metal fans.u know what I mean(i listen to maiden so maiden are the best-no I I listen to megadeth and they rule etc).ao they don't give a chance is many beautiful things that are occuring nowadays.open your ears mates new blood has come into town.enjoy.from japan to canada exciting things are happening.menog,frogacault,astrix,safi connection,KDD,fungus,penta.don't stick to a project or a genre.seek and enjoy.
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Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 16:10
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I did say that I think things has been looking very good last year, and IMO opinion there is a lot more excitement in the music lately than it has been for many years.
But one have to realize that creativity goes in the same cycles in all genres over the whole planet from what it seems.
Look at the end of 50's to end of 60's. There was much great and fresh music at the time.
Rock and blues really came about and heaps of immortal bands like Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd and Grateful Dead.
Then look at the 70's.
So you have Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin wich kind of continued the heritage from the 60's but can't really be considered as groundbreaking as many bands from the 60's.
And punk is not really a highlight of musical history either if you ask me.
The end of the 80's to mid 90's was again full of new styles and inspiration.
The end of the 90's and beginning of 2000's was like another 70's IMO.
It seems to me like we are slowly entering a new creative phase, and things a for sure getting better again.
But do you really think it's a coincidence that much of what you hear on the radio last few years is covers while trance has been in it's worst state ever?
Me not, I feel that trance producers has been lacking the same creative vibe as everyone else.
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Yuli
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 16:34
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On 2005-01-25 19:58, tsabeat wrote:
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On 2005-01-12 16:34, Yuli wrote:
To tell the truth the album with Danni could be at least 5 bpm slower on most of the tracks there and then it would hit the nail on the head much more then it did as it is now.
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hehe u sayin that someone forced u to certain bpm? is it for real? i got it right?
and btw - as suprize of the year was starring Freq.. should he raise his bpm too ? would it b more succesfull in any way?
i think may b u felt like this from the wrong reasons and if u realy did it as u wanted to and not feel "pushed" by crowd or label... it might even succes not less..
so bottom line is anyway to do what anyone likes and not think commercially..
(and if do... wtf psytrance got to do with it???)
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Since I answered your post privately I will answer here only to last sentence:
Who said that artist that makes psytrance isn't entitled to an income that will make possible his music making? Why all the time I hear this comparison of PSYTRANCE community to some utopic kind of world where there is no money involved?
There is money in psytrance as everywhere else in the world, wake up and smell the humus. And those artists that make music and also think about an income during the process of making are not heretics. Just normal ppl thinking about their lunch.
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 00:25
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Just like Surrender mentioned before. you are listening to today's music with old and tired ears.
Those of you who have been in the scene for 10 years are tired of psytrance, nothing is new. Of course.. You've been hearing the same thing for ages.
Take the newcomers into psytrance - they all hear this for the first time. Those rolling basslines, the power, the effects. It makes them excited.
You can't blame them for hearing it for the first time.
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HandA
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 04:35
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On 2005-01-28 00:25, Mike A wrote:
Just like Surrender mentioned before. you are listening to today's music with old and tired ears.
Those of you who have been in the scene for 10 years are tired of psytrance, nothing is new. Of course.. You've been hearing the same thing for ages.
Take the newcomers into psytrance - they all hear this for the first time. Those rolling basslines, the power, the effects. It makes them excited.
You can't blame them for hearing it for the first time.
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Please call it something different than psytrance. There's not much psychedelic in Full On. |
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furthur
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 04:48
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On 2005-01-28 00:25, Mike A wrote:
Just like Surrender mentioned before. you are listening to today's music with old and tired ears.
Those of you who have been in the scene for 10 years are tired of psytrance, nothing is new. Of course.. You've been hearing the same thing for ages.
Take the newcomers into psytrance - they all hear this for the first time. Those rolling basslines, the power, the effects. It makes them excited.
You can't blame them for hearing it for the first time.
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Please call it something different than psytrance. There's not much psychedelic in Full On.
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There is in some.
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 05:42
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Yes of course, a lot psy full on.
Anything can be psychedelic
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Silent Scream
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