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Squarepusher
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 24, 2006 17:54
Hi there


Im a former member of cokeroach,we just released one track on magma recs in 2002,a friend of mine spotted a site where they are selling unreleased music from us at a small price !!!

They didnt contacted us,its the first time i see this !!!


I think its a russian site !!!


I cant believe this is happening....

http://www.mp3hotfly.com/?menu=music_db&from=electronica%7Ctrance%20-%20psychedelic%7CCokeroach



Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:00
From what I gather on here, Russian law permits this kind of thing so it's legal (but please, please someone tell me I'm wrong)... I think the best thing you can do is to be glad your tunes are being played out. Perhaps write a polite, humourous email to mp3hotfly.com pointing out that you're the copyright holder and would appreciate being cut in on any proceeds?

Oh, and if you know who spread around your unreleased tracks, stab them in the eye with a screwdriver.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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fregle
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:01
my god, that's horrible... You will have to take legal action. Contact them first and ask them to pay you royalties or take it off the site... If they don't, sue them... But it's gonna be very hard if it comes to that. Are you affiliated with a copyright protection society? That would make it a lot easier...
fregle
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:05
Quote:

On 2006-05-24 18:00, Colin OOOD wrote:
Oh, and if you know who spread around your unreleased tracks, stab them in the eye with a screwdriver.



I second that...
Fingax
Cosmic Station

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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:07
unbelivable.. seing this makes me think that they can even change the act name just to sell becuase its proved that they dont care about copyright and iligal stuff such as release unreleased tracks without the copyriight holder concearn. incredible
neuromantik
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:59
Come on people!?! Wake up, this is RUSSIA we're talking about here. Every western country for over 6 years have been trying to pressure their government to shut down these pirate music/torrent/warez sites to no avail. Do you think a simple letter/email is going to get you anywhere?

Mr. Squarepusher, although I sympathize with your situation, I recommend cutting your losses, keeping your unr music locked tight, remixing the hell out of the tracks that have been leaked so that they're salvageable, and forget this whole legal business. Believe me you are not the first man burned by their pirate culture and you won't be the last.

Also, I meant no offense to any Russians whatsoever, I'm just telling it like it is.

Bonne continuation
ND
ProSect

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Posted : May 24, 2006 19:03
Heh, guys get used to it! I still can buy some nice Voice Of Cod album on Psyshop.ru

http://www.psyshop.ru/albums.shtml

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Squarepusher
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 24, 2006 20:21
Quote:

On 2006-05-24 18:01, FREGLE wrote:
my god, that's horrible... You will have to take legal action.



Fregle that was the last thing that came to my mind, Russia is big wall concerning legal rights..
Even if it was in another european union country,like France or Germany, i think i wouldnt care much !!

My atitude is going to be a passive one !!:D

ppl can do anything in terms of riping of,so im not surprised at all !!

Like Colina said its good to see that someone is selling the tracks i have forgot!!

they have the courage to sell tracks with no name (LOL)...

I´ve sent them a mail telling them to choose a nice name for the track among other things!!
Im not even 1% pissed about this,im more uhh... astonished !!!

Regards
fregle
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 24, 2006 20:37
then it's ok i didn't know russia was that hard on copyright issues...
Enertopia
Enertopia

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Posted : May 25, 2006 21:38
lol, I just saw my albums there too.....
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 25, 2006 21:52
Cool... 122 downloads           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : May 26, 2006 03:49
F.a.q

Whether there is a license fee?

*The MP3HotFly is paying royalty to ROMS according to law of Russian Federation. License number: ROMS license LS-3M-06-12

Is it legal to download files from MP3HotFly?

*Yes. Our company holds agreement with Russian Organization on Collective Management of Rights of Authors and Other Rightholders in Multimedia, Digital Networks & Visual Arts (ROMS). According to this Agreement and Law of Russian Federation we pay royalties based on number of compositions that had been sold. ROMS license # LS-3M-06-12


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piXan
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : May 26, 2006 04:03
same happened to me... i just tought it was funny and in some point flatterin that they play our stuff there.. hehe.. sure it sucks but i probably wasnt gonna get money on that track anyway
cheers..           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
neuromantik
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 26, 2006 09:48
Their FAQ is hilarious

Quote:

# What programs are better for using while downloading?
We recommend using programs supporting re-downloading files at breakage of communication. For example, FlashGet or ReGet.



Can anyone say cheap linux box in some mafia basement with a shitty connection? I mean come on, they can't even pay for the bandwidth to deliver their pirated media?

Quote:

# File downloaded with low quality.
Sometimes it happens. Over period of time some files can get defected. Send us the information on a poor-quality file, we will fix it. Then you can download this file free of charge.



What happens? Aren't these supposed to be DIGITAL downloads!?! As in impossible to degrade over time? How are they going to fix a poor quality file rofl? Why not call their mycel friends to upload a fresh copy! Stat!

Sorry for the rant, but I can't and won't hide that russian economics and lack of respect for artists make me sick...

hummingbird


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Posts :  115
Posted : May 26, 2006 19:58
Quote:

On 2006-05-26 03:49, tsabeat wrote:
F.a.q

Whether there is a license fee?

*The MP3HotFly is paying royalty to ROMS according to law of Russian Federation. License number: ROMS license LS-3M-06-12

Is it legal to download files from MP3HotFly?

*Yes. Our company holds agreement with Russian Organization on Collective Management of Rights of Authors and Other Rightholders in Multimedia, Digital Networks & Visual Arts (ROMS). According to this Agreement and Law of Russian Federation we pay royalties based on number of compositions that had been sold. ROMS license # LS-3M-06-12



Oh cool, if this is the case (and not just slimy wiggling) then one can probably register with ROMS and get some Rubles.

Might be worth checking out.

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