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Posted : Jan 18, 2009 03:56:41
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Usually there are two explanations for human nature the "blank pange" that states human comes with its mind "blank" and its experiences and knowledge that he experiments the ones that shape its mind. So violence, religion are product of social experiences.
An there is the other one who states than we come with some natural attitudes or conducts, like again violence, mysticism, so no matter where human is born it would develop moral sense, etc.
So, with which side do you agree must and why?
( sorry if i generalized too much, I dont know much about this discussion and I wanted to get it started)
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 11:57
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i wud go with the social experiences..
human nature - each individual has a different identity , a way of living, and way of interaction with others..
its all a learning experience is wat i believe..
we are not naturally gifted with the sense of behaviour in society .. its all fed into our brains over experience.. like a baby is taught from scratch ..
the natural attitude id say - wud depend on the genes .. its sorta carried over.. more or less.. but a large contribution to attitude is shaped over time.. with social experience.
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 02:28
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So... where did the human learn things like cruelty and extreme violence????
what is a human creation then ?? moral or violence?
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 07:08
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I think when you start life, a baby ,dont have moral .Total emptyness only impression colours and moods.its a psychological state where all has to begin to shape.This are of course the most important years that are often responsible for later violance unfortunately.Apart from this I believe to see in children the manifestation of god or peace. |
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 11:24
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 13:32
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Well i believe that humans are a omnivore mammal, our DNA has been modulated over the years from some "monkey-sapien-hybrid" into what we today call man. As with the monkeys, you will find cannibals, vegetarians, homosexuals and so on in the human world... Some are cute and fluffy others are aggressive and not to be trusted. Some solve issues with sex, others with violence.
To answer the first question, i would say that it is definetly a combination of the two theories. You might be born ill-tempered but you might aswell have learned it along the way.
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On 2009-01-28 13:32, Zoolog wrote:
Well i believe that humans are a omnivore mammal, our DNA has been modulated over the years from some "monkey-sapien-hybrid" into what we today call man. As with the monkeys, you will find cannibals, vegetarians, homosexuals and so on in the human world... Some are cute and fluffy others are aggressive and not to be trusted. Some solve issues with sex, others with violence.
To answer the first question, i would say that it is definetly a combination of the two theories. You might be born ill-tempered but you might aswell have learned it along the way.
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i think it's nailed down right there!
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yehhh definitely a combination of the two. i imagine social experience has a greater experience, especially between the ages of about 3-10 yrs, but some people just seem to be set up for certain personalities. for instance i've never been a great communicator, i never have been, i just seem to have been set up that way, however through social experience and practices such as meditation i am managing to teach myself the art of communication.
i think we are born with a template, and then social experience colours in the gaps.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 12:16
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I think that from the time we born till the time we die we can't do everything by our own... (or almost nothing...)
We need other people to live !
The communication then comes as a vital tool for our existence.
So i think we develope communication from the pure/primal instinct of survival.
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1) Past life experiences (Note that memories of past life will be blanked out every time we take the human form in the physical state, but it'll be accessible in a sub/unconscious state and also when u die which is the inbetween state... though the memories is not accessible easily, the experiences are carried forward in various means, Eg: child prodigys or many of those skills and nature which come naturally)
2) Genetically or physically carried over charecteristics or rather acquired from parents
3) Social setup, upbringing, education, experiences in this lifetime and environment(people as well as nature), diet etc etc ...
4) Also the personal will of the person... we always have free will... (Eg: ppl must've noticed that there are certain people who are born in the most dangerous and not so good parts of the world, but they are able to see and judge the bad and make decisions for themselves for good and they come out of the shithole and emerge as famous persons or atleast live a good life?)
5) Love & fear - these two things and the emotions that emerge from these two things can create/change/destroy people at any given point of time...
6) Hallucinogens  (i've noticed it completely changes people sometimes... powerfull stuff but maybe not as powerfull as love and fear... coz in life u might be something/someone but with one good psychedelic expericnce it has the capacity to change anyone into a complete different person overnight)
7) Karma carries people in certain directions sometimes involuntarily (Coz there are certain things we need to fullfill or learn in each lifetime before u ascend into higher dimensions and the cosmic forces/spirits/entities/energies work sometimes to carry u towards the destination... also note that when u r dead and hanging in inbetween state waiting for the next life, sometimes u r given the privilige of choosing ur parents or place to be born etc to faclilitate ur learning/karma)
etc etc...
i guess there are many more things that shape/change human nature...
and yeah, communication is very important for survival, be in a society or alone in the wild... Words are very powerfull... even words have the capacity to alter human nature...
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Posted : Jun 30, 2009 13:51
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experience is just another sensation that disappears...every experience is an experiment...some experiments are good some not so good and some bad...either way continue experimenting and experiences will follow
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