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XrTC
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 16:00
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On 2005-02-22 22:31, hip wrote:
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shouldn't the Master Tempo button allow you to change the tempo of the track without affecting its pitch?
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john_c
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 18:25
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agree 110%. I think more Psy djs need to keymix
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On 2005-02-23 16:43, FREGLE wrote:
i just test songs... if they don't fit harmonically, i don't mix them... i never mix tracks that i have never mixed at home either... I like to do mixes of at least 2mins (except when it's impossible ofcourse), so the songs really have to fit together... with the EQ on the mixer u can usually go a long way to solving small clashes... I dunno, i never really bothered with this kind of stuff... If a mix sounds good it's usable, if it sounds bad, just don't mix those songs... Why try? anyway, pitching something up 1 bpm won't add more then a few cents to the pitch of a sound... U really have to pitch up/down very hard to get to a semitone... (8.34% to be exact)
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 21:25
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On 2005-02-23 16:43, FREGLE wrote:
U really have to pitch up/down very hard to get to a semitone... (8.34% to be exact)
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Sorry FREGLE ,8.34% will be a bit more than one semitone.4.2% will be more exact number for one semitone up or down.
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 21:33
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Yeah and this analise of Armin's asot 2005 cd,for those who realy cares about harmonical mixing,this whats going on now in euro trance .
Hi everybody,i decide to put a Armin's new mix chart(since ,he deside to mix hes new cd in harmonycal progression )from ASOT cd 2005
M-is major
m-is minor
#-dies
b-bemol
[Disc-1]
1. Interstate - I Found U-[Dbm]-
2. Hidden Logic presents Luminary - Wasting-[Cm]-
3. Markus Schulz - First Time-[Cm]-
4. Max Graham ft. Jessica Jacobs - I Know You're Gone-[Cm]-
5. Mike Foyle presents Statica - Space Guitar-[Gm]-
6. Ava Mea - In The End-[Gm]-
7. Elevation - Pacific Passion-[between Dm and Ebm]-[i think with
the whole pic its going to be more Dm]
8. Locust - Aerospace (Probspot Remix)-[Abm]-
9. Armin van Buuren - Shivers-[Abm]-
10. EnMass - Beyond Horizon-[Cm]-
11. Kyau vs. Albert - Falling Anywhere (Rework)-[Bbm]-
12. Fragile ft. Alex Lemon - Inertia (Armin van Buuren Remix)-[Dbm]-
13. Sophie Sugar - Call Of Tomorrow (John O'Callaghan Remix)-[Fm]-
14. Marcos - Cosmic String-[Cm]-
15. John Askew - Mood Swing-[Cm]-
[Disc-2]
1. Peter Martin presents Anthanasia - Simply Blue-[Em]-
2. Nu Frequency - 808-[Em]-
3. Andy Moor - Halcyon-[Em]-
4. Ahmet Ertenu - Why (Derek Howell Mix)-[Em]-
5. Oliver Lieb vs. Preach - Papel (Preach Remix)-[Em]-
6. Remy - Crackdown-[Em]-
7. Gabriel & Dresden - Arcadia-[Am]-
8. Tilt - Twelve (Max Graham Remix)-[Ebm]-
9. Matthew Dekay vs. Proluctors - The Deep Show-[Bbm]-
10. Recluse - Emotional Void-[Dm]-
11. Adam White ft. Martin Grech - Ballerina-[Dm]-
12. Blank & Jones - Perfect Silence (E-Craig Dub)-[Am]-
13. Kyau vs. Albert - Made Of Sun (Kva Hard Dub - AvB Edit)-[Am]-
14. M.I.K.E. - Massive Motion-[Dm]-
15. Eyewall - Bad Deal-[Abm]-
16. Hammer & Bennett - Language (Santiago Nino Dub Tech Mix)-[Dbm]-
17. Liquid Overdose - Ancient Space (Fred Baker Remix)-[Bm]-
---------------------------------------------------------------------So,the whole picture ,look like this.
Personally ,i dont think if the WHOLE mix was REALY harmonical or ,what Armin meant ?,when he said that it going to be mixed in the key.Yes its mixed in the key (for example ,from E to E or D to D or Eb to Ab),but some times its goes from Dbm to Cm ...or Dbm to Am or Abm to Cm ...which is not realy....i think.
So ,for some more answer of mine ,i found one more intersting thing:
--------If you move up one step(from C to C# or B to C etc)
the new record will use completely different set of notes than the one were you just playing ,and so the change will be very dramatic.To be honest ,most Dj who key their records are interested only in this thing .This is a mixing style most closely associated with TRANCE and PROGRESSIVE HOUSE.
As Anthony Pappa explains,"Say you're playing a record in a certain key ,and it goes down to just a drums.Then if you bring in another record in the right key,when bassline comes in ,it gives an energy lift because it act like a key change."---------(the article has been stolen from "how to DJ right"(book))
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Yeh,and what about ,from Am to Ebm ,whats Armin did in the mix Do some body have the answer for that?(Thanks)
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I posted it in other forum(more euro tuned),so i just copied that for you, to show the pic of harmo...(thnx)Soon will be some psychodelic mixes.
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Apr 6, 2005 05:45
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Hi everybody ,
Here some:
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SPUN RECORDS
Wrecked Machines:
Second Thought (CD)
1. Rubberneck [Cminor]
2. Spotless mind [Gminor]
3. A team [Gminor]
4. Relation chip [Gminor]
5. Accustix [Aminor]
6. Tension shee [G#minor]
7. Tingling sensation (Wrecked Machines rmx) [Aminor]
8. Rhapsodie [Aminor]
9. Check in [Gminor]
10. Trancespoting [Aminor]
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SOLSTICE RECORDS
Gran Turismo 4 Kicks (CD)
1. Bullet
THE ANTIDOTE [Fminor]
2. Bubble'n tweak
HALLUCINOGEN [Eminor]
3. Move and proceed
X-DREAM [C#minor]
4. Checker flag
ETNICA [Aminor]
5. Back On track
QUADRA [Fminor]
6. Inside every man
KOXBOX [F#minor]
7. Dream snatcher
EAT STATIC [C#minor]
8. The race
ALIEN VS THE CAT [Dminor]
9. Moon over the castle
THE ANTIDOTE VS SYNTHETIC [Aminor]
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3D VISION
CPU:
Computer Error (CD)
1. So it begins [Eminor]
2. Computer error [Fminor]
3. Skynet [Eminor]
4. Positronic [Fminor]
5. Third planet [Fminor]
6. Deleted [Eminor]
7. Black mamba [Gminor]
8. Last nite [F#minor]
9. In the future [Gminor]
-------------------------------------------------------------thanks for attention------------for more info please chek:
http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/index.mv
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Do some body from you key the records(tracks) ?
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