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How would you stop the violence at trance gatherings?
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 14:14
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well you can't stop it, it's part of the humans. there are always and always will be violence.
and still i have to say after all in this scene is where i have seen less violence then anywhere else,
the other day i was parking in front of a supermarket and just before entering the parking spot some guy with his flashy/sporty car just came in with full speed in it, and while doing it he was insulting me and making me signs how to cut my head off.
just out of nothing, so this is the world we live in, or you accept it and make best out of it or you try to change unchangeable which would lead you to frustrated life!
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 18, 2011 15:21
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On 2011-07-18 09:18, moki wrote:
[...] you are one of those people who told me at least 100 times that the girl is the only one who is guilty for experiencing violence [...]
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When exactly did I say that - even once?
Please, don't put words into my mouth.
I was talking specifically about the case you presented (which is the case of domestic abuse spilled into The Scene). And I never claimed that all the blame is on the girl. Clearly, the jerk abusing her is the villain here. She, however, is a very important part of the equation too.
Anyhow, I was not talking about all victims of violence or all women or any other “classes” – only about the organizer’s girlfriend you described. And, BTW, this is the first time I voice any opinion on the subject. Don’t know where you got that “100 times”.
If you want to have a respectful and intelligent discussion – lets have one, I am all for it. Let’s just leave stereotypes and straw man arguments at the door, OK?
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 23, 2011 17:24
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I've been through a few levels of abuse in my past, in different environments, starting at quite a young age, by people who were "supposed" to be close to me and love me unconditionally for who I am.
But I don't dwell on it. It doesn't make me a damn victim. I just means I had a lot of shit talked to me and got my ass kicked. I don't expect people to join my pity party by bemoaning and lamenting about my story over and over and over.
I learned a lot of positive things from those bad experiences. It helped me to make a better person by teaching me not only how I want to be but how I DON'T want to be.
I've moved on and grown since those days, and I did it by letting go and extracting positive life lessons from really shitty experiences. Pissing about my self-described "victimhood" didn't get me anywhere and it was a waste of energy.
I hope that you, too, can learn to do the same so that you can once again be able to enrich not only your life but the lives of those who have experiences with you.
We are the ones we have been waiting for all along. How long are you going to make yourself wait?
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 24, 2011 00:21
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+e^pi 
And if you can't do what Axis Mundi described here - seek help. Not on GoaBase but with a close friend or, better yet, with a professional. It's a matter of getting your life back.
P.S. It may also help if you stop spitting in the face of anybody who is trying to have a conversation with you. That will go well towards that "speaking with a friend" idea. It helps to have friends to begin with and not to alienate them. |
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psyraal
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Posted : Jul 25, 2011 00:40
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On 2011-07-15 20:07, Login wrote:
Here in Mexico last year at a party for which organizers didnt ask for permition from drug lords a gang of armed men (with assault weapons ak-47 and the like) arrived in the morning shooting to the air, they stopped the party.
They made everyone knee and rob them, then they searched for drugs than werent from them and the persons carryng them were taken away (some of those people was never known again from  )
Then after all that they jus said "well now you can resume the party". I think Mekanika or massive were playing at that moment.
Of course after that incident there hasnt been a single event in tha city (monterrey).
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After i read this i thought "No way, just like that?" and then i went into shock state because that is really, i don't know, wrong, i mean we can't control those drug leaders and the violence itself, physical or not, but it's a shame really, the human being is so god damn dark on the inside.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 01:38
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On 2011-07-24 00:21, Maine Coon wrote:
It's a matter of getting your life back.
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i see, you guys seem to know a whole lot about people you never met or you just met once for ashort glimpse.  thanks for being concerned, i am very touched, but please dont worry about me and my friends. i have grown a lot since the days i seeked help from anyone in the party scene. i will be okey and i can take care for myself , you can be sure about that. also i dont intend to make EVERYONE around me happy because i am not mother teresa.
but you better take care for those of your friends who might experience the same. this was my thought. not a session of psychotherapy in isratrance.
and also i am doing my best to make those around me happy. but my best is limited.
p.s. you cannot get a life back. life is now. and the past will never happen again.
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moki
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Posted : Jul 26, 2011 01:40
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On 2011-07-23 17:24, Axis Mundi wrote:
I hope that you, too, can learn to do the same so that you can once again be able to enrich not only your life but the lives of those who have experiences with you.
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thank you.
unfortunately i can only enrich those who want to be enriched by me. but they are enough.
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kazuku
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Posted : Jul 27, 2011 22:27
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Arghhhh I hate violent people....hating violent people makes me sooo fkin angry I just want to beat them to a pulp...with a teaspoon...argghhhhhh
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 29, 2011 23:04
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Tina,
You got it all terribly wrong.
We don't really care at all.
We are all total dicks. Our idea of good times is chewing on rare steaks, while swapping obscene jokes about wymyn. In the spare time, we sacrifice female kittens at phallos-shaped rocks and chant prayers to the God of Erection. The most worthy members of our enlightened community get to visit chambers of our Great Leader and watch him perform a ceremonial sex act with a family of Galapagos turtles. Then we go back to our steaks and monster trucks. Ah, good life…
Peace.
P.S. On a more serious note, “Taking your life back” is a figure of speech. It does not have to mean trying to return to the past – any more than putting all eggs in the same basket does not have to be about grocery shopping, hitting two birds with the same stone does not have to be about hunting etc.
P.P.S. And yes, violence sucks. Especially when committed by somebody who is supposed to be your friend.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 30, 2011 00:54
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Don't forget about the spotted owl vs. panda bear deathmatches we place bets on, using orphaned children smuggled out of war torn countries as currency, in the VIP room.
(Pro tip: Bet on the panda bears. They're a safe bet, especially if you're trying to staff your household munitions factory. Their little fingers polish the insides of bullet casings real good, and if you're lucky enough to win some communist babies, they're a lot quieter and really good at sharing their gruel rations with each other, which is an additional money saver.
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kazuku
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Posted : Jul 30, 2011 07:58
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^Oh you guys play this too.....do you get served the "platter of extinction"in your VIP rooms? With baby snow Leopards, sauteed whale penis all that? I used to go alot but have stopped going there, since Brad Pitt joined our local chapter things have been going downhill. He wins the orphan slave labourers all the time and takes them home for his wife. His Fight Club honed betting skills are too good- no chance for the others
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