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how to stay focused on main theme/ideas behind completing a track?

PoM
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Posted : Feb 20, 2011 14:20
if you wanna stay focused you have to get everyhting ready imo,and try to not mix much production and making music .
make your own sample packs ,when you get samples save only the few good high qualities ones,with time you will get a nice sample pack and it won t take you much time to find what you are looking for (cause it kill creativity to look for sample and to process them ) .
you can work on layering and processing to make your drums samples even better and almost ready to use.
same with presets/banks on your favortite synths ,save your favortite presets make some banks with yours...
same with all fxs , for reverbes to delay to distortion ,everyhting...
my way to go is some days after i come back on the work i have done and save the most high quality ones in a different folder, it will be the only one i use for music or librairy, the more you are selective with your sources choice the more high quality will be the final track production .
all this work on production in fact will take you way more time than composing a track but in the end it will pay cause you will have only very high quality source and composing track will be easier, the point is to get high quality sound almost ready to use in the track with minimum work on it .

with time and experience you will get all this ,from tracks to tracks saving always the good stuff , but working direclty hours on it can be good too if you like it.

PoM
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Posted : Feb 20, 2011 14:52
how do you want to stay focused on making music if you have to work hours to get your kick bass ready, same for the beat , if you spend lot of time on each synths sounds...then on fxs ...not possible imo it will kill all your ideas and the flow, intelligence of the track ... after it s maybe just a personal thing ,dunno.
minus
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Posted : Feb 20, 2011 19:47
yea homboys, what all you guys have written is fukin true,but i guess all this instant sound production of the exact sound you want to make/produce/put down, will definately come from knowing your gear(vst's fx,daw,etc etc),and not through experimenting, and going through presets and looking for sounds,but actaully synthesising the sound. but i guess all this takes time to learn,whatadvice you guys giving is what a highly skilled pro, will be able to do from his experience he has gained over a long period of time, and getting to know all his gear inside out. for someone like me, i just been seriously into production for just 8 months,but i have played with some softwares before for a couple of years,but my new set-up with cubase5 and a few good vst, and monitors and midi cunt roller, and all that is all new and fresh.and now since ur words have made a few things much clearer to me even tho inside me i knew that sitting and doing actaul sound synthesis is the only way,i know what is to be done now, thats the only way to do it right, is to get more experience in the studio with the new setup and work on those good vst's/synths all those small small things fx,limiter,compressor etc etc, to pick 1-2 best ones u like and tweeek the fuk out of them, so i can extract some real juice out of them.its just sloth/lazyness on my part till now that i havent done thing the way they meant to be done, but enough is enough, time to sit my ass down and work this out.
cheerz for the words amigos,helped me realize what the fuk i been doing and what is to be done! ahaha
bombomz and peace brewz
knocz
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Posted : Feb 21, 2011 19:14
@minus: 666 posts! The devil lives!

Just a comment to what you said minus: The best way to know your gear is to experiment with it, and I do believe this musical genre is all about experimentation and finding out new sounds and textures.

I think when people don't know their synth, they travel through presets until they find something interesting, and there is nothing bad about this, but since they didn't create the patch and don't know that the knobs do, the just keep it this way. The sound patch can be interesting but after hearing it loop it becomes dull and boring.. People should try to make the sounds evolve to keep it interesting, by twisting and tweaking the parameters (that's what most people mean when they say "automation")


But this goes a little offtopic: if you have main ideas for a track there should be less experimentation and more "laying down your ideas" which requires more sound synthesis knowledge.           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
derekryan


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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 09:42
I think an essential part of production is actually knowing what NOT to add to a track...

It's really easy when you're on a roll to come up with a crapload of ideas and not all of them will fit in your tune.

If you have a good idea of what you want the track to do in the end - how it sounds and how it will make people feel - then be ruthless in cutting out everything that doesn't fit.

The upside is you can always reuse the extra bits in other tunes...
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