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How to speed up music production?
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Mar 27, 2013 10:51
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Also i have several Kontakts set up like the following
8 drums including
Closed Hi hats
Open Hi hats
Kicks
Snares/Claps
Rev Cymbal
Crash Cymb
Percussion
SideChain
On each instrument inside the Single Kontakt i have all 8 octaves with a different drum, so on the kick drum instrument i have 8 octaves worth of kicks already there when i open the project, same with all the other drums 
I also have a Kontakt set up the same but with risers, fallers and all kinds of weird SFX.
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Limor
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Posted : Mar 27, 2013 11:01
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 27, 2013 14:05
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I used to make tunes fast, now I take my time and enjoy the process more + the tunes I make taking my time, sound 10 times better than when I was speeding up my music production.
Reaching the destination is not the purpose of the journey, but the journey it self is the purpose.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 27, 2013 20:56
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I've been thinking about this more, as its a question that I ask myself relatively often.
If you want to speed up music production you need to be able to learn new things and integrate them into your workflow quickly - as music production particularly in the EDM context relies on a lot of different techniques and concepts.
You can't rapidly integrate new techniques and concepts if your mind and body are weak or malnourished or you don't have enough time to devote to learning.
So personally I've been doing some research on health, wellness, productivity techniques and nootropics, and I feel that the recent changes that I've made to my diet and how I plan my day have resulted in more productive sessions where I learn and explore more than I have been in the past though I'm still in the early phases of switching my regimen.
My ideal day starts out waking up ~8, drinking a coffee blended with MCT oil + butter for breakfast, cleaning up my studio from the night before and checking my internet shit and then by 9 I'm in studio mode and remain there for ~6 hours. I then take a break to make lunch, do some housework, and then I have a couple more hours to work if I can.
Of course, this schedule is only possible if you don't have a dayjob - but it is very important to get in the studio and work as much as you can every day.
If you want to read an amazing book about art and productivity and overcoming your resistance to working on art, I highly suggest The War Of Art, you can get it on audible.com and if you go to audible.com/joe you can get a 30 day free membership to audible and download that book for free. its a 2 and a half hour long listen and it has helped me a shitload in terms of understanding why I sometimes procrastinate and how I can be more productive.
Sorry for the novel, but yeah....no shortcuts, just hard work but you can work more efficiently if your whole system is aligned and healthy.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 28, 2013 17:20
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Change the tempo to 200bpm. |
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 28, 2013 19:45
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we used to have few templates with send plugs etc, presets folder, samples folder etc...
but about a year now when we did a clear format in our pc we start from scratch every time. with complete empty ableton template and innit patches in every synth. we have only few kicks and some sounds especially cause layer them most of the times and so on...
as Nectarios said we enjoy the ride much more now...even a track will finish in a month(?)
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 28, 2013 19:59
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now i think i would do like back in the past..writing the tune fast.. and then come back tweaking everyhting careffuly,synths patchs ,production, audio editing ect insteed of mixing everything at same time . the aim to try first to get the priority on a great story and not production ect.
at one point we were doing that and it was working fine.. all leads with software to keep the most track as midi and get the 7/8 minute filled with a rough version,then we replaced lot of these with nord and virus if needed.
or loop based is also nice and something i would like to try more..basically make lot of patterns and then play lego by keeping just the best ones.
a friend explained this when he worked with a well known artist that have really good level of production and good flow in his tunes imo , he will first just work on making loops.. like 50.. then he will start aranging. |
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 28, 2013 20:32
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 29, 2013 18:56
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On 2013-03-28 19:59, PoM wrote:
or loop based is also nice and something i would like to try more..basically make lot of patterns and then play lego by keeping just the best ones.
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this is actually a very good way to work. I sometimes open a new project, make some wild sound design, like a movement or something, or detailed fx, and store those in audio, in a folder for later use. When I tried Ableton, because the interface wasn't familiar (usually work with logic), I made some loops in logic I could export so as to combine them in Ableton, with the clips view, and it opens a new way of addressing composition for sure. |
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Mar 29, 2013 20:44
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yes, I have found ableton's clip-based system to be very helpful in speeding up production. i also find that it provides me with this capability without short circuiting the "journey" Nectarios is talking about. I have found the best way to do this is to move from making tracks in an arranger to just making tons of clips. I basically make a live set, then extract tracks from it after I have learned to play the live set (i.e. learned what sounds best/most natural/most exciting, etc). Then you get to work on your live set skills at the same time too!
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 31, 2013 00:02
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loop based like this with a good analog console..fxs ..dub style 
just jaming recording then coming back more into details .
ableton can you get very close to that workflow..but it s all fake sound so kinda a turn off compared to using outboard fxs ,processors , console with mojo ect.. the end result won t be the same in term of sound.. but this is more about taste. |
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 31, 2013 00:20
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 31, 2013 03:45
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Yes, but most of us can't really afford such setups. I think in terms of sound, software has come a long way. But even with good controllers, the hands on approach is somehow lacking.
I think even digital synthesizers like the Nord Lead, or the Virus are really worth it because of the physical interface alone. Most debates are about sound quality, but I feel this is really important.
But, all in all, digital has grown more mature. And there's tons of features and possibilities inside modern daws that certainly made possible some genres of modern music to. I mean, thing about crazy audio chops and precise editing, time-stretch, so forth and so on.
Personally, I like hardware and software a lot. Granted it communicates well and the setup is carefully laid out. With a big focus on functionality. But sometimes, we all dream of wires (great movie btw). |
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 31, 2013 15:47
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true true it s just my dream setup if one day i win loto
i don't like much modern sounds so for me going to a almost all analog studio would be like a dream ,there is also the workflow of not beeing always in front of a computer ect.. the fun factor .
it s my view on this but staying in front of a computer composing is far from the original idea of making music..and i think it could tranltate directly into the music making it more or less boring. when jaming having fun ect.. this is what need to be translated into the music and these day it s maybe not really the case in lot of stuff. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 31, 2013 18:01
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Yep, there's a lot of "completely inside the box" music out there. People that have grown to develop their skills within the confines of a music software of some fashion. Myself, I've started with Reason - which is a curious program considering this subject, as it carries with it a lot of the vocabulary of the analogue world.
It's a bit of topic, but I think one of the things that's lacking in most modern software, like Logic - which is what I use nowadays, along with some "jamming" in Live, is that hardware is easily combined in very surprising ways - if you take the modular approach to things. Most plug-ins are self contained, to the point that if they allow some kind of connectivity, it's usually audio in or side chain functionality at most.
Part of the fun used to be about combining stuff you have, like: feeding the out signal of a Korg MS-20 to an Access Virus to use the distortion, and sending the result to a mixer, then to some guitar pedal of some kind. In the end, no one would be able to pin point the character of the synthesizer used, because it would sound unique.
So, patching stuff together used to be part of the creative stuff, even without far to expensive analogue modular setups. That used to be (still is) a lot of fun and part of the creative process. This has been said here: people should really take the time to learn what they use. Back in the days, you'd buy a given groove machine, say a Roland, and you'd have to try and see what you could do with it, really push the limits. Having to much stuff can be distracting, as to many options sometimes only brings confusion with it. One of the best ways to speed up the music creation process, in my opinion, would be to narrow down the tools and really take the time to learn them very well.
And while we're on this subject: I think Ableton is being very clever about this, as they're implementing new ways of working, which are much more intuitive (think of Push or dedicated Live controllers) and some other companies also have very analogue feel hardware (like Maschine) with the added convenience of software, very well integrated.
Same goes for the Access Virus TI, that is if you manage to integrate it well within your setup - which is sort of better now with the latest updates. I think this products make the bridge between hands on, analogue feel, and the modern day daw's world, and once you get to know them well, it's a very good setup to have and to work with. Even without looking at a screen. Cheers |
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