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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 08:53
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On 2011-09-08 20:22:24, Conny wrote:
Hi have had a lot of problems setting the levels of my instruments right in the mix.
The reason i post here is to have some guidelines on how i easier can find the right levels for my instruments.
There is allways some sounds which are either to loud or quiet in my mixes. What about mixing at really low levels, is that an good idea?
No-one has actually addressed the main issue raised in the OP.
The reason why some sounds are always too loud or too quiet is that you need to work on your EQ skills. Unless a sound is properly balanced within itself, you will be forever unable to find a place for it in the mix: if you turn it up so that you can hear all of it, some parts of it will be way too loud; if you turn it down so the loudest part is at the right level, some parts of it will be too quiet to hear.
I think you need to listen into those hard-to-mix sounds and identify the frequency ranges which are either too loud or too quiet, and EQ them so that the sound is balanced throughout its length. This can take a long time to learn on your own though, so if you have a local friend who is a very good producer, you can speed up your learning by asking him to demonstrate this to you.
Floating-point audio has nothing to do with this.
hey just outta curosity, isnt eq gonna add machine noise at every step of it ?i think its better to produce or record ur sounds balanced and 'for the mix' . shelving will have a lot less noise than boosting but there is noise .
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 14:44
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On 2011-10-11 08:53, aXis wrote:
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On 2011-10-11 00:05, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2011-09-08 20:22:24, Conny wrote:
Hi have had a lot of problems setting the levels of my instruments right in the mix.
The reason i post here is to have some guidelines on how i easier can find the right levels for my instruments.
There is allways some sounds which are either to loud or quiet in my mixes. What about mixing at really low levels, is that an good idea?
No-one has actually addressed the main issue raised in the OP.
The reason why some sounds are always too loud or too quiet is that you need to work on your EQ skills. Unless a sound is properly balanced within itself, you will be forever unable to find a place for it in the mix: if you turn it up so that you can hear all of it, some parts of it will be way too loud; if you turn it down so the loudest part is at the right level, some parts of it will be too quiet to hear.
I think you need to listen into those hard-to-mix sounds and identify the frequency ranges which are either too loud or too quiet, and EQ them so that the sound is balanced throughout its length. This can take a long time to learn on your own though, so if you have a local friend who is a very good producer, you can speed up your learning by asking him to demonstrate this to you.
Floating-point audio has nothing to do with this.
hey just outta curosity, isnt eq gonna add machine noise at every step of it ?i think its better to produce or record ur sounds balanced and 'for the mix' . shelving will have a lot less noise than boosting but there is noise .
No, it won't add perceivable noise, although if noise is already present then it might make it more obvious. Equally if your sound needs EQ cuts rather than boosts, it might make any noise less obvious. What do you mean by 'machine noise', anyway?
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Posted : Oct 12, 2011 15:37
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On 2011-10-11 14:44, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2011-10-11 08:53, aXis wrote:
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On 2011-10-11 00:05, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2011-09-08 20:22:24, Conny wrote:
Hi have had a lot of problems setting the levels of my instruments right in the mix.
The reason i post here is to have some guidelines on how i easier can find the right levels for my instruments.
There is allways some sounds which are either to loud or quiet in my mixes. What about mixing at really low levels, is that an good idea?
No-one has actually addressed the main issue raised in the OP.
The reason why some sounds are always too loud or too quiet is that you need to work on your EQ skills. Unless a sound is properly balanced within itself, you will be forever unable to find a place for it in the mix: if you turn it up so that you can hear all of it, some parts of it will be way too loud; if you turn it down so the loudest part is at the right level, some parts of it will be too quiet to hear.
I think you need to listen into those hard-to-mix sounds and identify the frequency ranges which are either too loud or too quiet, and EQ them so that the sound is balanced throughout its length. This can take a long time to learn on your own though, so if you have a local friend who is a very good producer, you can speed up your learning by asking him to demonstrate this to you.
Floating-point audio has nothing to do with this.
hey just outta curosity, isnt eq gonna add machine noise at every step of it ?i think its better to produce or record ur sounds balanced and 'for the mix' . shelving will have a lot less noise than boosting but there is noise .
No, it won't add perceivable noise, although if noise is already present then it might make it more obvious. Equally if your sound needs EQ cuts rather than boosts, it might make any noise less obvious. What do you mean by 'machine noise', anyway?
Cutting is easier on the ear than boosting, but don't be afraid to boost if absolutely necessary. Wider curves will sound better than narrow peaks when you're boosting with EQ. Of course it's better to make or record your sounds so that they're balanced in the first place, but this is not always possible.
Would like to add to that. When you apply EQ on the channel you change the level.
What is most confusing is the measure Peak which basicaly measures the loudest Peak in the spectrum and the dynamic range. So you might want to pay attention to that. Only watching your peak meter and setting the peak levels is not enough for getting the "right level" or balance. Alot more factors are affecting the sound than its peak level like : position, ADSR, timbre, colour. When you EQing you might want to look up for masking problems instead of just cutting up sounds and say: "This sounds quite good."(by itself). Here you'll need lots of coffee and free time cause its a lot of work to get it right and not overdo it too.
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers Wierd shit happens :)
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Thanks for correcting me. It won't measure your dynamic range and spectrum frequencies apart from each other, only measures your highest amplitude peak. http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers Wierd shit happens :)
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 22:50
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On 2011-09-08 20:22:24, Conny wrote:
Hi have had a lot of problems setting the levels of my instruments right in the mix.
The reason i post here is to have some guidelines on how i easier can find the right levels for my instruments.
There is allways some sounds which are either to loud or quiet in my mixes.
What about mixing at really low levels, is that an good idea?
If you can't mix properly is either because your monitors are decieving you or you room is.
You should be able to mix everything well if you have some practice.
I recently experienced a major (Really major, I can't stress that enought) change on my productions just because I rearranged my speakers position, sweet spot and treated the room with some basstraps and absorbers, the improvement in clarity was amazing, I could suddently listen to everything in major detail.
