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how to put together my dj set in mp3?
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Trip-
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Posted : Jun 14, 2006 08:34
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On 2006-06-14 01:12, diskOtek wrote:
either he does it by editing or by repeating his recording session. 
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Right,
and what I'm saying is, that if you respect yourself as a performing artist - a DJ - you choose the latter.
I really have a hard time understanding how can you "live" with yourself after you give out a pre-edited Dj set, which makes you sound like a professional Dj but you really aren't... Where is the point? where is your self respect? And do you admire those Djs who do this kind of editing as you said...
Ever heard recorded perfect piano sessions that last more than 40 minutes sometimes ? It was recorded and printed on a CD...Mistakeless...Amazing huh? And I'm not talking about a Live performance, where mistakes are barely tolerated. And let's agree on one thing, performing on a piano playing something like Ravel, is hardly if at all close to recording some Trance Djset.
The performer spent hours on hours to make it perfect at practice sessions - and this is what I can suggest to you. That is when you will feel most confident in what you do, and you will be able to do anything you want - and although as we humans sometimes do make mistakes, the REALLY gifted performer knows how to cover up his mistakes without anyone knowing about it.
Practice, patience, comitment and will... Or otherwise you want to be "thinks-he's-a-dj" instead.
PS: topics like these really remind me how some people today, take everything easy, shortcuts that promise fame and money instead of overcoming their challeneges - about discovering their hidden abilities - same goes into performance and into the musicmaking. It's sad, it's shallow, it's souless, it's virtual arts.  Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Bikini Blitz
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Posted : Jun 14, 2006 14:45
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Hi;
If you really want to cheat on that...then donŽt mix at all, first record all the traxx you want to into your Computer, get some kind of audio apps ( wavelab, Cubase, Ableton...whatever ) and make all the editŽs inside and export it as your mix CD...
YouŽll find it to be very clinical, very little humanized and very boring...youŽll end up with a perfect ( skillz dependig ) mixed CD that will impress everyone, except you...the one who knows how it was made !!!!
On the other hand...you can pratice alot, maybe record a full mixes of it and see where you should make improvements...timing, key, off beats...etc,etc,etc... cause then when youŽre asked to perform youŽll be able to.
No ofense meant...
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jun 14, 2006 19:24
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no offence at all-just discussing!
i dont know how i ll be able to 'live' with myself cause i havent done it!
all mixed cds i have sent to anyone(from competitions to friends)were made by live mixing and no editing at all.
i know its the right way,i know its practice practice and again practice..ok agreed.
i ll play the devils advocate and i tell you-why then when producing use all the sequencer stuff to have a melody played on correct timing and edited and dont do it live?
why the hell you and i want to call ourselfs artists or musicians(for example)when we cant record an 8sec melody right and we have to use the sequencer or quantising or or or?
why the piano player you said can do that for 40min and we cant for much less time?
i think because we are using all technological equipment we can to make this easier.
which in long term may not be good at all for us!
all in all u ll give an edited perfectly mix cd.
when the promoter takes u to gig,u ll show what u are capable of.
if u cant mix at all ok leave it,but if theres a minor mistake why not fix it with the help those programs offer u-its nothing about self respect or wannabe dj at least for me.
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Trip-
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Posted : Jun 14, 2006 20:39
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You are not giving me a counter conversation here...
The philosophical remark about technology might be correct, but deffinately not concerning what you wrote about sequencers and/or electronic music. At least you are asking questions - which is great.
Here is arts... a term that is pretty hard to nail in words, and I won't try doing it here so I hope you know what it means to you personally.
Making music on a computer - the whole principal of using a computer for this matter is one form of art that I'm sure you can find in what you are listening to. But surely a quanitzed sequenced melody won't go into the category of Performance - and obviously not in the Performing Arts. And that is why the same melody when played on a Piano, which won't surprise you much after 10 listens, can have a different performance quality by different players.
Same goes about the Dj Set - meaning - the set has the same order of tracks for example, but 2 different djs will have different performance qualities while performing it and the surprise is:
You will be able to judge! By your own "QA" definitions...
There is getting help from a computer to do something to make your life easier (Using Word to print a document)... and there is using the computer to create something that is individually your art. (Using Word to create a giant ASCII Mona Lisa portrait or write a book) - Same goes to many many many computer/technology related arts.
If everything that I wrote till now was obvious and already known, then I only take the credit to be the one to remind this.
Now that I hope the philosophical edge is behind us, lets concentrate on the mixed CD.
You do know that a violin player makes minor mistakes at an orchestra setting - but no one really hears it because there are 10 other players playing along with him.... This is where solo performance art wouldn't be taken much into account.
You are going to a gig in order to perform - as a Dj even. If you are "light headed" about this issue, meaning you just want to come, make the people dance (who cares how well you Dj anyway - including the promoters if the people are dancing) - you made some mistakes that rose a few eyebrows on the dancefloor, but all in all you did your job.
If this is your job, and money issues are at stake here, I would take your pre-edit dj set idea instantly.
And now I still have a question - why do you want to fix that mistake on the computer instead of just practicing and getting your performance better - when this is purely a performance issue and nothing else? This doesn't have anything to do with technology, a computer or a CD deck or playing MP3 files or which brand of headphones you are using.
Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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joylobe
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Posted : Jun 14, 2006 20:45
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mp3 is like tape... for personal use only!
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Skëlp
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 07:50
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make your own set in goldwave, burn that into a cd... put the cd in the CD-player... press play... all you have to do is smile, dance and once in a while play with the buttons from the unused fader...
it usually works!!! 
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diskOtek
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 17:36
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what seems to me as the answer to your last question is this.
the world of djing,the world of night in general is a sparkling world.
when u have your first contact with it u want to enter it as soon as possible!i admit that sometimes i think like this!
but for christ sake,i see so many djs round that dont know how to mix properly-not talk about djing in general.
and then i say:why sit do again the set for that mistake thats not so bad while the promoter takes a dj who's for me crap.lets just fix it here and get over it!
i mean,i am willing to put much much effort to this,but seeing the whole situation in the field doesnt force me at all to do so.
and yes i m doing counter conversation but not for bad reasons!
maybe thats the way to realize some things!
though i have to tell u that i agree with almost all ur points in your last post.
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koalakube
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Posted : Jun 18, 2006 08:03
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On 2006-06-13 22:09, Boobytrip wrote:
I was just kidding. I respect dj's as performing artists Anyhow, has anybody seen the documentary called Scratch ?
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Awsome movie!I loved the scene in the kitchen ;-)
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full_on
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Posted : Jun 18, 2006 10:52
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Nice line of thought from Trip-. 
Keep editing your mixes and you'll be very good in fixing wrong mixes. Keep practicing your mixing skills and you'll not need to edit your mixes. Think about it.
Respect!
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