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How to make those kind of basslines?
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jekvan
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 18:09:43
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knocz
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 19:15
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It's a 3/4 bassline. That means you divide the space for every kick in 3 instead of four. Instead of getting any of the following, (where K is a kick, b is a bass note and - is silence)
Kbbb
K-bb
Kb-b
Kbb-
K-b-
Kb--
K--b
you can get this:
Kbb
K-b
Kb-
I love a nice 3/4 tempo al long as well placed. The tricky part it to make the drums to go with it 
I hope this is what you wanted to know..?
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Mike A
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 19:24
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It's called triplets.
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jekvan
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 19:44
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On 2010-12-28 19:15, knocz wrote:
It's a 3/4 bassline. That means you divide the space for every kick in 3 instead of four. Instead of getting any of the following, (where K is a kick, b is a bass note and - is silence)
Kbbb
K-bb
Kb-b
Kbb-
K-b-
Kb--
K--b
you can get this:
Kbb
K-b
Kb-
I love a nice 3/4 tempo al long as well placed. The tricky part it to make the drums to go with it
I hope this is what you wanted to know..?
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No,dude,I know what triplets are....
I ment,technically,how can I do those basslines?
It sounds pretty streightforward,but I can't really make them to sound like that...It kills me,I can't even make the bassline I want  . |
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opium den
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Posted : Dec 28, 2010 21:05
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waltz style? or u meant the vst that made that bass? vb foshouuu in the second vid |
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marcz
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Posted : Dec 29, 2010 08:39
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load up a clean patch/init preset
osc -> saw
filter -> lowpass
mod envelope set to filter cutoff:
attack 0
decay 5-30
sustain 0
release 0
mess around with that and you should get something similar to the videos, might want to add a sine to another oscillator as well, for more boom
sylenth1 does this pretty well and thats mainly what i use for my basslines
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jekvan
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Posted : Dec 29, 2010 22:51
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On 2010-12-29 08:39, marcz wrote:
load up a clean patch/init preset
osc -> saw
filter -> lowpass
mod envelope set to filter cutoff:
attack 0
decay 5-30
sustain 0
release 0
mess around with that and you should get something similar to the videos, might want to add a sine to another oscillator as well, for more boom
sylenth1 does this pretty well and thats mainly what i use for my basslines
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That's it?
No need to add some compression or anything?Or some effects?
P.S:Why do people use different soft synths for basslines (well,besides dedicated bass synths) ,do they really produce different sounds by the same parameters?
I was trying to do all of it by now on flstudio 3xosc and 404 synths,but is it possible there can be a better quality using sylenth for example? |
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Alekzis
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Posted : Dec 29, 2010 23:08
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ofcourse you need to add many other stuff like eq, compressor, multiband distortion, maybe a harmonizer... etc to achieve this quality and character.
many synths sound good but the trick is in the other tools you use.
also some volume changes like a side chain compression or velocity changes (you need to set the velocity modulate the volume or filter etc...) will make it more groovy!
practice practice practice... |
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marcz
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Posted : Dec 29, 2010 23:50
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On 2010-12-29 22:51, jekvan wrote:
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On 2010-12-29 08:39, marcz wrote:
load up a clean patch/init preset
osc -> saw
filter -> lowpass
mod envelope set to filter cutoff:
attack 0
decay 5-30
sustain 0
release 0
mess around with that and you should get something similar to the videos, might want to add a sine to another oscillator as well, for more boom
sylenth1 does this pretty well and thats mainly what i use for my basslines
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That's it?
No need to add some compression or anything?Or some effects?
P.S:Why do people use different soft synths for basslines (well,besides dedicated bass synths) ,do they really produce different sounds by the same parameters?
I was trying to do all of it by now on flstudio 3xosc and 404 synths,but is it possible there can be a better quality using sylenth for example?
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well, basically it is.
try to achieve a good and stable bass sound and fundamental with the synth of your choice before adding eq and compression. i like to keep it clean and somewhat straight forward, sometimes im not compressing at all.
you could apply effects if you want to, its a matter of taste. the only effect i primarily use is distortion.
also try not to get hung up on different synths if you want to produce a solid bass sound, use the one you're most comfortable with and start from there.
i'd say u get a hold of sylenth1, or keep going with the 3xOsc for a while cuz you can get great results out of that one as well. |
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MeditationProfonde
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 03:01
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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 18:40
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Yes they all sound different!
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I was trying to do all of it by now on flstudio 3xosc and 404 synths,but is it possible there can be a better quality using sylenth for example?
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Yes Sylenth is high quality softsynth.
FX are the crust of the cake bro... first get your sound shaped from the synth should sound fat, pumpy and clean from the origin itself.
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 19:15
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not a particular vst but its all about practice!!
u may use ne vst to get this bass... a good eq is the key i suppose!! |
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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 20:25
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For me not any vst does the work for psybass.
It depends specially on the envelope section, some produce much more sharp, snappy sound (cronox, sylenth, zebra...) |
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alajarvela
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Posted : Dec 31, 2010 17:13
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Could anyone make me a preset for Sylenth or some other VST, I'd like to try out different styles other than the one I'm stuck with just because I'm not sure what a real psy bass should sound like |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 31, 2010 23:19
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alajarvela
A real psy bass, that sounds not like the psychedelic mentality!
Nothing is real in psy 
It would be a step in the wrong direction if we start saying, "real psy lead" "real psy kick" and so on.
You have the freedom to do what you want.
But if you want to make/re-create a sound you hear,
First you listen to what you want to replicate then you start tweaking, thats how we learn stuff.
Or you can just search youtube and find lots of tutorials on how to tweak a baseline that suits psytrance.
-Why dont you make some suomisoundi
thats the best, freeflowing drunken style, mushroom trance delux
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