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How to make this kind of kick and bass ? ( clip included)

Conny
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Posted : May 4, 2009 14:05:29
Anyone who has any ideas on how you can make bass and kick sounding similar to the link






I believe they maybe use wavsamples cause the sounds seems kind of short.Maybe it´s a combination of programming anf the use of wavsamples.
Thankful for any ideas.

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Posted : May 4, 2009 15:11
hmm on my crappy speakers i just hear an offbeat bassline with cutoff quite low...
so take a nice synth, cutoff quite low and a nice filter envelope and you got it
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Posted : May 4, 2009 15:44
sounds just like VB-1 with a low pass filter boost 60hz-80hz, and the kick is pretty generic u could find something like that anywhere.

the rhythm is just Kick on 4/4, and the bass is a 16th note wide in the key of 'D#' or 'E' , on the inbetween beat of the kick.

Very very very easy to make.

Good EQ'ing is the key!!
jizy
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Posted : May 4, 2009 18:40
so how would one do good eqing, product placement?
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Posted : May 4, 2009 19:20
Jizy, by boosting/cutting certain frequencies that would compliment the kick bassline.

Experiment with the following

Kick:
This is your lower frequency spectrum that you want to concentrate on when EQing a kick, generally these harmonics sound good when boosted.

60Hz
80Hz
100Hz
125Hz

This is your high frequency spectrum, where you get that snap from in the attack.

2KHz
or
4HHz

Alternatively you can find harmonics by using your EQ:

Set 'Q' really high
Boost 15dB
Scan Freq spectrum

When you hear it resonate, thats usually where the harmonic is. Take note of the Freq, reset the EQ and boost as per normal.

Bass:
This is the generic VB-1 style bassline and wouldn't necessarily be suitable for all bass synths.

-Low pass filters
Low pass between 2KHz and 4KHz for that fullon rolling bass type sound with plenty of attack.

Low pass between 500Hz and 2KHz for the sample track you provided above.

- Boosting
40Hz Subfrequencies
60Hz Fattens up the low end
80Hz Adds fullness
100Hz Body of the bass
125Hz Adds a little bit of dirtiness
250Hz Adds roundness
(i know my descriptions suck haha)

With all of these tweaks, dont boost all of them at once for christ sake, listen to what the bassline or kick is lacking and then go from there...

I hope this helps, this is just generally what works well for me, but by no means is this the 100% correct way to do things, music is expressive and anything can be correct!
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Posted : May 4, 2009 19:25
On the note of harmonics, you can use that technique on any instrument. Its good for trying to find little annoying bits that you want to get rid of, fine tune ur EQ to harmonic mode (as set above) find the annoying bit, then -30dB.

I use this method when mastering to pull out certain instruments that i want to accentuate. For eg. if the hi-hats are too soft, ill do the above method and boost around 8KHz where the hi-hat harmonic lives.

You'll need a good EQ for this as the Q has to be set extremely high, waves 10 band EQ is recommended.
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Posted : May 4, 2009 19:50
found this in another post:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ezhli9
jizy
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Posted : May 5, 2009 11:50
do u recomend the use of dynamic Eqs, that way u dont have to take so much out
jizy
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Posted : May 5, 2009 11:54
cheers tho mate, hmm yeh eqing can be shitty. do u use bazzism? wheres the fundAmentle section on that?
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