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how to make this basslines and leads ?
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crackhead
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Posted : Jul 19, 2013 16:33:55
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Fakso
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Posted : Jul 19, 2013 16:50
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when you have more than one bassnote between the kicks, velocity linked to the volume is your friend (this is also very very true for percussions)...with volume linked velocity you can create groove, not only the position is important, but when you have a sound repeating itself several times in a bar or more (mostly percs and bass but its also nice for leads and chords etc.) this will enhance your groove very much
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crackhead
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Posted : Jul 19, 2013 18:47
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thx bro ..
any tips for the leads ?
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B-recluse
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Posted : Jul 21, 2013 15:15
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well i hear its the vb1 from steinberg , put some dynamics on your bassline also because vb1 don't got much sub try to put around 49/50hz a eq litle boost ! I use a wave compressor also sonnox oxford dynamics plugin will help its got a build in compressor,eq and warmer ext , but ok waves c4 multi compressor is great here's a example to get a nice dynamic bass .
1. crossover ( far left) gain 3.0 ,range -3.0 ,attack -4.00,release 40.27
2. low 65hz gain 3.0,range -3.0 ,attack 2.00,release 20.04
3. mid .100 hz gain 3.0 ,range -3.0, attack 1.00 release9.98
4.high . gain 3.0 ,range -3.0 attack 0.50 and release 5.00
the threshold settings are :
low .thresh.-40.6 mid.tresh -35.6 high thresh -30.0 and set the Q on -40 ps. Q 16 k 0.50 hz i put the out put as i like
well i put for some warming fx the tal tube ! great vst ! then the eq is up to you ! i would say about the bass lowcut about 35 hz to start and just begin to hear how much sub you want out ! ok hopes it helps a bit namaste |
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Hypereal
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Posted : Jul 21, 2013 18:24
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No,no and no.First of all vb-1 doesnt need sub boost because it have plenty of it,try high shelving around 120 hz for 6db and you will hear the amount of low frequencies.Dynamics you will get with different note velocities or compressor sidechain.Using multband compressor with tweakings that you described will get him nowhere because every signal needs different processing and for that you must listen in context with kick drum because every kick drum sample is different. |
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Taisto
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Posted : Jul 21, 2013 19:10
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In my opinion VB-1 needs some boost to low end, its a pretty light sound without.. Not necessarily eq, but something lowtubing staff helps too, like bx boom or maxxbass or rbass, you name it 
But to the topic movement comes from right sound, note lenght and timing plus some sc and velocity to the bass. I would say that first make up you sound right and then adjust it to the groove. Dont always make it even, keep your snapping none and follow your ears.. like all musician do, they follow the groove they feel.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 21, 2013 23:08
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1. the kick's length and watch the frequencies, has to play nice with bass
2. typical fm lead |
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crackhead
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Posted : Jul 22, 2013 18:35
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awesome , big thanks for the replies !
how do i set the midi for such leads , i have problems with getting this fast tones , it never sounds so nice rhythmic when i try it .. or is a gate the better solution ?
i even don`t get such a cool fm lead , any tips for that ?
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splikz
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Posted : Jul 22, 2013 20:05
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bounce bounce bounce. for fast patterns, better to work with audio instead of midi. at least I prefer that way.
most synths will leave tails on short notes..
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crackhead
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Posted : Jul 23, 2013 21:16
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and what to do before bouncing ? are there any good fm lead presets around here , or tutorials ? |
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knocz
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Posted : Jul 23, 2013 23:02
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On 2013-07-23 21:16, crackhead wrote:
and what to do before bouncing ? are there any good fm lead presets around here , or tutorials ?
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Do yourself a favor and forget about presets man! PLEASE!
Take a FM capable synth, load the init patch, and start mangling with it. That's where all the fun is!!! Understand what each knob does and discover the synth, and you'll be always creating your own type of sounds.
Even better, when you are producing if you know your way around a synth (or sampler) you'll be able to create whatever leads you want and modulate them into other sounds, creating effects, etc.
So, find yourself a FM capable synth, load the init patch, start playing some notes, figure out where is the FM knob (or how the synth does FM) and start increasing it.. try using different waves, and sculpt your sound. There's no right or wrong, nothing that "you're supposed to do", as long as it sounds good and you like it nothing else matters.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Jul 25, 2013 19:08
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fm leads...
start with a simple patch, just two oscillators (one carrier, one modulator), choose sine wave for both of them (first, but then experiment), tune them a few octaves appart, like: -12, +12, +24 (semitones) - this is all sensitive to the key you're playing! ok, either highpass or bandpass or two filters in series or... but yeah, probably high pass with some resonance is going to do the trick faster... filter saturation? just try it
if there's such an option, sync the oscillators and see what happens. if there's such a thing as an Fm amount knob, play with it.
from there on there's plenty of stuff you can do with modulation, this and that. experiment!
yeah, someone said here: bouncing down to audio and cutting... but many times you can get away with midi. no release on the envelope, different note lengths...
most patterns will sit nice on the bass notes (of course), even for frenetic speeds. and the groove is like said above: longer, shorter, the actual notes and the fast or smooth filter sweeps...
then try something like fm8 when you feel you've nailed what's possible with less stuff: that goes from 2 to 8 with multi-stage envelopes and this and that, so plenty more options even... but something like albino, you can get the sounds on those tracks! |
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jul 26, 2013 18:04
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man use presets if they are in context with the track, the "no no" rule is a creativy killer, you will always tweak the preset even if it is just a bit
Use VB-1 if u like it, a bass is a bass, better to learn how to use vb-1 than always changing from to sylenht, oh not good, cronox, oh not good,v-station or whatever just to find the miracle bass 
Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si |
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crackhead
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Posted : Jul 27, 2013 20:40
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thx brothers , i`ll try frisbee !
i think presets are a good way to learn .. i wouldn`t use them exactly like they are .. |
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