How to make the bass come more out of the track?

On 2010-11-04 22:22, Oni Katsu wrote:

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On 2010-11-04 22:16, orange wrote: the only thing that stands out of this track is the bassline... try to add some other sounds to your bassline.. and exept that i can hear only the bassline.. its a farty bassline aswell. dont get to obsessed with the bassline but with the overall balance of the mix.

mister mister mister, the reason i'm working on just the bassline is because thats what i need to work with the most of all.
i'm never getting close to this sound unless







its not that i'm too obsessed with the bass, just way more my style to have a fat loud fullon bass. And when i just cant get the sound i have to work with it.

really this is just the bassline with some sounds around so that its kindof.. in-context.

and yes it sure is farty.

On 2010-11-04 20:50, minddoctorsmakeacid wrote:
That bass sounds like it has chorus applyed to it.

Try making it mono and use a single osc with a normal saw, no delays or modulation just separate the channel into 2 channels one controling sub freq. and the other controling high frequencies.

On 2010-11-04 22:58, willsanquil wrote:
I can't listen to the track as I'm at work, but one of the weirdest things about bass and kick in relation to its perceived speed is that percussion in particular has a very, very large impact.

If you don't already have one, just find a decent hi-hat + clap + snare loop (or 1 of each and combine) just to sit in the background a bit and add some groove to your bass. It is quite rare (I think?) to get the bassline sounding fast and funky with just itself in the mix.

if the nudging of the notes is radically altering your groove, methinks you've nudged too much. It should be barely perceptable...just a little bit of swing/shuffle...

On 2010-11-05 04:55, Oni Katsu wrote:
Yeah, often adding short hats and a phat loud snare makes everything sound exceptionally powerful, therefore i chose to make the mix as powerful as possible without the percussion, and after its finished i add it on afterwards to really get that funky groove and the power to my final track.

Is that stupid by any chance? it should sorta work in theory

On 2010-11-10 21:38, Upavas wrote:
Take a multiband compressor, like L3, listen only to the lows of a really well produced track by muting everything else, it may sound like crap, add the high end stuff again and it'll sound great...

Well yes ofc, because having onl one frequency playing sounds shitty.

i guess your point was that i should add it to the bass and mute different frequencies in it?

well if you didnt it still was smart.
xD

On 2010-11-10 19:50, willsanquil wrote:

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On 2010-11-05 04:55, Oni Katsu wrote: Yeah, often adding short hats and a phat loud snare makes everything sound exceptionally powerful, therefore i chose to make the mix as powerful as possible without the percussion, and after its finished i add it on afterwards to really get that funky groove and the power to my final track. Is that stupid by any chance? it should sorta work in theory

I am not qualified enough of a producer to say what is or is not stupid...and this next thing that I'm about to say may be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt.

One of the most important aspects of mixing seems to be relativity - in that something can only be 'big' or 'large' when it is compared to something else in the mix. So, therefor if you only have one (or in this case, 2..kick/bass) element in the mix how are you going to evaluate it?

A lot of the time when I am working on kick and bass relationship I will solo those two tracks and work on timbre, try to EQ out ringing frequencies if possible, blah blah

However when I want to adjust the groove of the bass I put on some basic percussive loops...not necessarily ones that I will use in the final mix, just something that allows the bass to be relative to something besides itself - it makes a massive difference to my ears...

However, I am sure there are a billion and one ways in which to go about getting a nice fat groovy bass. If it sorta works in theory in your head then might as well give it a shot!