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How to make percussion have bite?

willsanquil
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 00:59
So DH you use all loops, you don't program any? or minimal programming and mostly loops?            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Posted : Sep 22, 2010 03:07
mostly programming since I slice up pretty much every hit to put it exactly where I want, and I do love my motown breakbeats, played be real drummers who are not as tight as a digital sequencer, so I need to sort out the audio region transient. but when some work, I just leave them as they are.           
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Posted : Oct 24, 2010 19:13
Usually I have a percussion send with maybe a HP filter, EQ, degrader, very slight delay (I like low send, high feedback), maybe a tiny taste of flanger, and almost always a slight reverb.

I like to put envelopes on percussion elements, panning env so everything is moving around rather than straight out (IE a pan from center-right-left on an open hat making it sound sort of like its circling around), and usually pitch envelopes to make everything distinct or add higher range to the initial hit... Or whatever. Usually I effect and EQ each perc channel separate, then they go to the send with its own set of fx coloring all the perc, which helps em all sound similar enough. Sometimes I put stereo expansion on individual tracks, sometimes the send, sometimes both. Sometimes I increase the general peaking range of the perc wiht an EQ to stand it out from the rest a bit more...

When mastering sometimes I like to use the Ozone 4's harmonic exciter and stereo imaging (with imaging i try to expand only the high band, raising the delay so it sounds like the high end of the percussion is more panned to either side, leaving the mid-high band and the rest alone). Im really happy with the Ozone 4, after using the 3 for so long, the new side and mid settings are a dream come true. Mastering will help bring out frequencies, but it can't isolate them and make them stand out (I guess if you set one of the bands on the Ozone very tight you could excite or widen a tiny segment...) if they aren't already. If mastering isn;t something you do, don't worry about it. Just try to make sure everything has its own peak in its own frequency without overlapping too much that they clip, and trust your ears above any bouncing green bars.

Also, I leave the main volume control of the OS at 100% and adjust teh DAW volume (Renoise has a handy auto-gain-reduction setting that I usually use that automatically lowers the master when anything clips, also handy for finding clipping elements or squealy resonances) to suit. For a long time I had the OS set to maybe 10% and the DAW always set full, resulting in my work being clipped to hell but sounding ok .           .
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