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How to make music to sound good with bad speakers
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 11, 2010 11:52
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my production improved with speakers very noticebly but I read often thru user Speakafreaka comments that he is not using any good monitors even that he is using only headphones ..(somewhere on psymusic I think though) and I think his quality is amazing.
I believe with expirience and the right use of analyzers it can work too.
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PoM
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Posted : May 11, 2010 12:32
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your room will color a lot the sound anyway , your +2/-2 monitors can turn up in +10 / -10 db easily .
it s more about finding monitors that work for you,in your room , it can be 200 or 2000 dollar monitors. a very detailed monitor don mean it s better for mixing ,a good monitor is one that give you good mix with the less effort . |
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Sound Geezer
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Posted : May 11, 2010 13:37
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@ TimeTraveller........Do you know what monitors he uses. I say the same about mine but some people think they are very good. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 11, 2010 13:58
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@ PoM - I agree . - Also I notice it now,it is my next issue to improve.. cause my walls are so high and the room is a bit hally.Still it is much more dynamic,clear and punchy than my experiments with really bad speakers.
I'm almost satisfied I think now that are only tiny problems though,now all makes fun,espescially clearing anything with eq.
And the result that were coming only from times where I used only headphones were frustrating.
Now room treatment will be my next plan.
@ Sound Geezer - I don't know that.
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Sound Geezer
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Posted : May 11, 2010 14:18
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One mans bad is another mans good....Headphones can help in areas where poor monitoring can let you down. This includes the room you put the speakers in. I also use headphones to check for noise issues, clicks etc. It is like a safe guard as my room is not isolated. My headphones cost just shy of 200 UK pounds. Don't be surprised if the chap you mentioned has spent a similar amount. I would never work on JUST headphones. Again I would stick my neck out and say the same for this other chap. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 11, 2010 14:28
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yes I agree ,same expirience there are things where I put my headphone on.But the overall mix and most of the time I prefere now monitors.
Although without headphones it would lack of a lot to improve too.
And I have only the very cheep bayerdynamic dtx 700 and a few even more cheeper.
I'd like to buy sth better but the money is not endless here.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2010 19:05
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Posted : May 11, 2010 20:12
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lol....Abbey road use HIFI speakers. So do many Mastering suites. My point was that it is highly unlikely that he uses just headphones and that they may be quite expensive. |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2010 20:50
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Posted : May 11, 2010 21:30
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Dude they do use HIFI speakers. B&W, they make HIFI speakers. High-Fidelity. They don't just use the big ones. They actually use some of their bookshelf speakers for nearfield.
Have you checked the current retail price of the HD25's? Not exactly cheap. A 4 year old post....PMSL
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Posted : May 11, 2010 21:36
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"and yes I do check on hifis and often alter the mix in particular as a result" speakafreaka
So like I said he does use more than just headphones.
Colin are you arguing for the use of only headphones? |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2010 21:38
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Whilst B+W do also make hifi speakers, the B+W 800Ds mentioned repeatedly on their website cost around $12,000 a pair. That's not HiFi. Which B+D bookshelfs do they use there, and in which studios? You seem to have a more intimate knowledge of their facilities than is given on the website.
As for getting up on the wrong side of the bed, it was you who suggested that everyone on this thread was ignoring the influence on the room. It's not like people never talk about that stuff, it just wasn't the subject of this thread.
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Posted : May 11, 2010 21:46
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Well I have worked there on a few occasions Colin |
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Posted : May 11, 2010 21:51
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 11, 2010 22:11
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What work did you do, can we hear it?