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How to make a loud mastering without distortion

Ancient Alien
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 20:09
simple question...what is the normal, psytrance,goa trance spectrum, i can find images on some place?

i see the kick and bassline always hit high and no mids and highs can follow it           https://soundcloud.com/ancientaliengoa

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metamorphosis music
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 20:16
dont think theres a "normal, psytrance,goa trance spectrum" or not that i know of, but my advice dont get in habit of mixing with ur eyes, but with ur ears, there are no rules when treating sounds ..every mix is different and needs to be treated differently, less is usually more, if it sounds right its right
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Geom3
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 20:22
these questions r hurtin my brain...why dont just load track and spectum it if u cant by ear yet....dont focus on that anyways
Ancient Alien
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 20:58
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On 2013-04-20 20:22, Geom3 wrote:
these questions r hurtin my brain...why dont just load track and spectum it if u cant by ear yet....dont focus on that anyways




i tought that and did, and my track got same spectrum as filteria!

if its hurting you stop reading, im trying to learn with all you people, i cant blame that post cause you help me and thats fine but let me try to solve my pain of not making crap music...

anyway people are enjoying my bad mixing sound and following me on cloud, i think im doing fine for a begnniner and i want to learn more, this forum is for helping           https://soundcloud.com/ancientaliengoa

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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 21:00
its quite fine if i got some leeds on low octaves giving groove, coming to close frequencys of my bassline right? for the groove of the leads, that bassline it self cant do....and i should try to put other leeads on high octaves to ocupy other frequencys           https://soundcloud.com/ancientaliengoa

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Geom3
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 21:14
back to the drawing board mate...


Geom3
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Posted : Apr 20, 2013 21:47
time out...
Ancient Alien
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 00:54
comon!im a beginner!

my english is not quite good for music terms...

i have no idea of is gain reduction in compressors, is in the treshold, or output?

im trying to gather all info, and ask if im right in my conclusion or i dont get nothing, its very pro terms and im understing few of them...

patience im not like you guys im being humble asking...           https://soundcloud.com/ancientaliengoa

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Geom3
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 02:15
i ment time out as in dont get lost in obsession the idea...u have all the info u need here and on this thread ...aswell as books and net...

i recommend this read buy it if can..
http://www.mixingaudio.com/book/toc.php

http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Mixing_audio.html?id=q6BtnYZTriwC&redir_esc=y

this is just a guide... as in u could relate the guitar mud zones to a distorted lead synth in the spectrum. its just to give u idea dont go by it fully as will depend on the sound but......



there r others like this... just av to dig deep


Nomad Moon
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 02:38
É aí Luiz!!!!
Boas perguntas, todas, mas sao mtas ao mesmo tempo , tem que ir fazendo uma coisa de cada vez, nao posso ajudar mto pq ha muita coisa q tambem nao entendo, por causa do ingles e dos termos tecnicos, tem que ir experimentando, veja tutoriais na internet, as coisa demoram a entender, anos as vezes. Nao veja o compressor como um salvador de vida, segundo li compressor tem a ver com volume e nao com equalizacao, imagina a sua linha de baixo corre a -10db, voce coloca um compressor baixa o treshold o som vai baixar em volume, voce vai ter que compensar com o gain . Eu vejo compressor como nivelador, vai esmagar a wave assim aproximando os sons mais baixos dos mais altos dando mais coerencia nao se pode exagerar se nao vai ficar tipo com borbulhas na pele, toda irregular, se calhar estou errado heheh           Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si
untilthereislight
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 02:38
Getting the mix right is of utmost importance. I think if you are having to use EQ in the mastering stage there is something you need to fix in the mix. Sometimes just to compare the frequency range I take a track I like that resembles closely the sound Im going for and just A/B it with something like blue cat audio frequency analyzer. It has a transparency knob so you can put the 2 analyzers on top of each other and compare the result realtime.

Then all I do to 'master' the track so I can play it in my set with already loud tracks is use Cytomic Glue and use the 'make it loud' preset and play with the gain just to get it equal to the loudness levels of other tracks.           StarLab - Label DJ/Artist for Digital Om Productions

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Geom3
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 02:43
nomad his english seem fine 2 me .any need for that language? others may find it usful ..put it english at bottom of that one eh

luiz get that book is gooood
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 03:02
Was just trying explain, and im no pro, but the compressor sometimes is seen as something that could save you or something, its a tool like any other tool, mostly for volume from what i've read and i wouldn't worry too much about it.
For now
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 06:39
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On 2013-04-20 21:00, luizwilhelm wrote:
its quite fine if i got some leeds on low octaves giving groove, coming to close frequencys of my bassline right? for the groove of the leads, that bassline it self cant do....and i should try to put other leeads on high octaves to ocupy other frequencys



Yeah, that's fine. If you think carefully about your sounds and your arrangement you'll find that EQing is a lot easier.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Grevinsky
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Posted : Apr 21, 2013 18:42
Making a good mix takes time, so dont stress it. It will progressively get better. You got a lot of info in here already.
If you are creating ure own synth patches, i recommend you too make as good as you can from the start, then you dont need to eq so much.
I saw a great video some years back about mixing inside the box, i cannot find it now tho. But that really clarified things for me. I´ll try to find it
          .
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