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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 19:52
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Overall the track sounds like it was produced on hi-fi speakers in the mid-late 90s and then slammed through a T-Racks or Ozone preset to make it loud.
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i think he was going for 90s sound
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On 2013-04-18 16:20:09, luizwilhelm wrote:
my last track i tried to loud enough but i think i have distorted
The track has too much energy between 200-500Hz, in particular in the kick and bass. (mix/mastering issue). It also has much less below 100 than it should do to sound fat on a dancefloor (mix/mastering issue). The low end is pretty untidy, with little definition in the bassline and lots of sounds seemingly having energy below 150Hz that don't need it there (mix issue). The high frequencies sound fairly dull in general (mastering issue) and there seem to be very few transients left in the percussion (mix/mastering issue), which is not helped by the fact that the high frequencies in many of the lead sounds are louder than the high frequencies in the percussion (mix issue). The mid and high-mid ranges are overcompressed but the overall balance between sounds is ok, considering the lack of clarity and EQ finesse in the mix. Stereo image is fine.
Overall the track sounds like it was produced on hi-fi speakers in the mid-late 90s and then slammed through a T-Racks or Ozone preset to make it loud.
Related: Unless your track clips, the loudness of the mastered version of your track has absolutely nothing to do with the peak level of the unmastered mix.
awesome info....you really helped me...im really learing how to mix...i will try to put in praticty the EQ of everthing, its very hard,really...you guys are pro in that job and i need to improve
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 20:11
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On 2013-04-19 19:19, Colin OOOD wrote:
Overall the track sounds like it was produced on hi-fi speakers in the mid-late 90s and then slammed through a T-Racks or Ozone preset to make it loud.
+1
i think he was going for 90s sound
this is good ?? i tryed to make oldschool sounding...
i started with old spekers in the production and mastered with everthind done with a sennheiser hd439 headhpone and a new audio interface
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 20:13
"im really learing how to mix" - one thing at a time mate
dont bother with "trying" to master befor ya havnt even learnt how to mix efficiently...no logic there..if its percieved loudness u want for just previews b4 mastering professionally then just wack on a comp/limiter of sum sorts..
maybe u used the wrong word.....mastering..serously fuk the mastering dont even use the word....
cheers for that info
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"im really learing how to mix"
then dont bother with "trying" to master befor ya havnt even learnt how to mix...no logic there..if its percieved loudness u want for just previews b4 mastering professionally then just wack on a comp/limiter of sum sorts..
maybe u used the wrong word.....mastering..serously fuk the mastering dont even use that word....
cheers for that info colin
i know Mast**** is really serius and its done by enginners...but im alone, independent and i want when i finish my tracks to get a good result...im trying much more to do the mixing, but i do that asking like that and ive alredy learning, but many terms i dont understand in my leanguage and seems hard to do something with some tips you guys gave me, but thats fair i must do the job, i just dont know exactly how to fix my frequencys...
i see my tracks got much more 100-500 heertz than 1000-5000 and so on hertz, and forthefcukingcrises i got many leads on higher octaves and high pichted sounds...thats normal?the spectrum to be a descendent curve...
well if i got a Bassline ocupping my 30,60,100-400 hertz and bosts, ALL leads that come to that place i should cut?cause the bassline will show up and be de sound of that frequency, and the lead ,cuted,in the frequency range of 500-1k (groove gated) it will sound better right?....i feel so bad to cut the not so used frequency cause always change the sonority, soo i get i littl ebit confused...
i produce for 1 year and half alone, i think im doing good with that track i showed up...
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:07
lol i didnt mean dont literally use that word lol...
hey man get your perfect soundin result in the mix stage.... mast***** no magic but i see your confusion no worries sorry i come across a lil brash..
and your doing fine,,your more grounded than i am by bieng able to finish what u start! thats an achievement in itself..
mixing and getting your levels correct... you are the balancer of your individual channels and sound.. identify what freqencies not good and remove it individually , there r lots of ways, doesn't hav to b all eq and ya dont hav to cut huge either.. ...once done and its clean and great,balanced etc, the mast***** engineer could then put more energy and time for the power than rather waistin time fixing your our mix mistakes... u c?
i dont understand your last part of message and your frequency numbers u mentiond tho...
uz turnin it over complicated
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:28
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On 2013-04-19 19:19, Colin OOOD wrote:
Overall the track sounds like it was produced on hi-fi speakers in the mid-late 90s and then slammed through a T-Racks or Ozone preset to make it loud.
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:31
haha yeah but yours were already not too far..
i like oldschool sound when it s well balanced though.. more pleasant than silly loudness of lot of today stuff for me
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:33
lol u wouldnt of known what it sounds like now i do agree tho ha
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:33
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On 2013-04-19 19:19, Colin OOOD wrote:
Overall the track sounds like it was produced on hi-fi speakers in the mid-late 90s and then slammed through a T-Racks or Ozone preset to make it loud.
+1
i think he was going for 90s sound
this is good ?? i tryed to make oldschool sounding...
you need to balance the track better imo like colin mentioned.
i picked first example i could find so maybe probably not the best.. but this is oldschool sounding but still fairly well fequency balanced compared to yours..after it s taste..it don t really bother me when it s a bit dull like on this tune ,modern stuff can be really bright , a balance between both would maybe be nice..
if it s not your style of mix check some transwave maybe
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:46
As has been said: don't worry about the mastering. First learn about production. During the way you ll also learn the tools you can use for mastering. But that is still far away.
To show the tracks to friends, you don't have to master them. You should just focus on a great mix!
Dont forget to post new tracks in the workshop section!
Good luck!
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 21:55
yeh great mix will sound like a great master - alotof people get confused with this word and r mislead into deluded confused wonderlands
i mean ideally ofcorse we would love to do it all..puttin the final touch on ya tune..but i guess dont bother if u aint got the gear n knowledge...simples
knowledge is easier to get than it is to get sum very nice monitors and a treated room....
all possible tho..just one thing at a time....i guess concludes this fuker
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 22:35
Colin sumed it up well imo with the points he made. quality of a mix is a lot on frequency balance and transients "to body" ratio suited for the style of music.
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Posted : Apr 19, 2013 22:36
yep he did..and its a no brainer really anyway.. all i was doin was gettin ma head round why luiz was jumping 5 guns ahead of the process.....
