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How to keep volume level,when applying effects?

jekvan
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 23:05:15
Yep,question in the form of question follows:

So,I'm applying effects for a certain midi track...For example,delay plugin on one of my synths.Being novice,I'm still not sure what each knob does,so I play here and there,and use presets.

The thing is,I want to keep the velocity of that channel,but when I do automation clips,I don't know how to adjust wet-vs-dry so the volume will stay the same.On time it is higher,other time it's lower.

What one can do to control volume level?
Medea
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 23:10
Some settings will make the resulting volume higher, some - lower, that's ok

Just adjust the volume as you need, after you applied the effects.

To avoid clipping, make your default channel levels 10dB lower - the only thing that matters during mixing is relative loudness of your tracks, not absolute.

You can always make the track louder after final mixdown.
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Vonoom
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Posted : Oct 7, 2010 23:12
Ah Medea beat me to it, but here's my reply anyway...

Well depending on the effect you apply, it won't necessarily affect the volume very much, sometimes not at all. When applying effects like delay you can sometimes crank up the feedback and wetness so much that the volume is radically affected. There is no real way to correct for this 'on the fly' unless you're adjusting your faders all the time, or apply a limiter, which would be a last resort.

A better option would be to apply the effects as you like them and afterwards adjust the track volume by using automation, so that the volume dips in the louder parts. Alternatively, you can bounce the track to audio which gives you a visual impression as well as make it a bit easier to work with. At least, I prefer to do it this way if it's a bit that requires a lot of attention.

Either way, there's no one-button fix for this that I'm aware of, you just have to trust your ears and use the correct tools

Good luck with it!
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 01:29
I just use compression to control the levels or limiter as said above.
daark
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 09:40
send chanel fx 100% wet           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
jekvan
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 12:24
Quote:

On 2010-10-08 09:40, daark wrote:
send chanel fx 100% wet




Hmm,I want to make gradual transition to effect,so I'm slowly applying the knob .

Can't trust my monitors much,when I work from my home-those are shitty 100 NIS PC monitors.Compression sounds like a plan thought.
Thanks guys a much.
jekvan
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 12:58
Hmm,yea,compressor did the trick I think (was a pain in the ass figuring how it works ).

I applied delay and then gate effect to some "whirling" sort of fx in background,at 10 seconds mark.This time volume ain't getting crazy.







Thanks a lot,guys.
Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 8, 2010 17:12
that echo from :35 to :42 or so is still a little heavy. A common thing to do there would be to sweep up a highpass filter while the echo goes. That's kind of an overused effect though.

I do think adding echo almost always works better if you also add a little bit of reverb.
dija
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Posted : Oct 9, 2010 05:35
When applying fx you may also use compression to keep your signal level if you do not mind the changes to the sound or desire them.           http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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