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How to keep motivation levels up while beginning a new track?
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freechameleon
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Posted : Dec 19, 2010 12:47
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the most pure motivation is knowing that one will improve over time with enough practice and eventually be good or excellent.
no matter what field or subject!
edit: THIS is the real 'brain thing'. ;-) |
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Dec 19, 2010 15:53
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I always start with a Kick Bass pattern and then stop and think of a intro pattern and percussion for awhile until i get the first minute really exciting and then i stop and go work on other tracks and come back to the new one the next day or later...i think of idea when im outside the studio walking around or something..like add this fx there..try it think of adding fx when ur not around sound.it works. and then continue if you get stuck take a smoke,watch a movie,organize stuff on your computer..organize ur song
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Obelizk
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Posted : Dec 20, 2010 03:17
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is there a mother of all creativity thread? --
i took a psychology class on creativity, and some on poetry that showed us how creativity can come from that silent zen peace of mind, where you're not deliberately thinking about what you want to make, but it just comes out. There was a book I read called The Zen Of Seeing which showed how meditation and blanking your mind out let's you create from your core, and not just copy. I feel like I do this more naturally, but it made me more aware of the process, which makes sense.
In applying this to electronic music production, or possibly any music production, if you think of creativity this way, when you're tweaking knobs, you're delving into that part of your mind where you're fixing and not creating. Some people have said you should try to take a second and take a breath after you do a lot of tweaking and try to get your mind into that peaceful but aware state again before you start writing/creating more.
There totally still is those on days where everything's effortless and you don't have to even think about the process, but recognizing it's one of those days is easy, and you can divy up the creative tasks for that day and get great results, leaving the other ones for later.
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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 20, 2010 18:13
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Creativity is nothing but to be able to see connections between concepts or ideas...
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“The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.” Albert Einstein
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Talking about perception i find it amazing how it is changed just by closing eyes or turning the screen off... i hear music in a completely different way when not looking at the sequencer window...most of the times i have to hold my self from tweaking something when listening.
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Architekt
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 05:46
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danfoss
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 11:57
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It is very helpful to do collaboration with other ppl.
It can expand your ideas, when you actually hear how your tracks work in different styles.
Give it a try.. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 15:04
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collect many positif expiriences in your sidelife.Dont make music production as your only life.Take your time to enjoy lots of sweet aspects of life.Find love ..but dont let your music fall down to places of unimportance.Music and love should be in balance hehe
Do not force yourself to create music if you feel not to do it.It could be a sign sth in your other life is unbalanced,take the mission to solve it out and come back.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 15:26
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On 2010-12-21 15:04, TimeTraveller wrote:
collect many positif expiriences in your sidelife.Dont make music production as your only life.Take your time to enjoy lots of sweet aspects of life.Find love ..but dont let your music fall down to places of unimportance.Music and love should be in balance hehe
Do not force yourself to create music if you feel not to do it.It could be a sign sth in your other life is unbalanced,take the mission to solve it out and come back.
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Great insights friend 
thanks for sharing.
Balance is everything
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aciduss
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 17:03
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I enjoy working with other people but not that much...
When they are more experienced i learn a lot and enjoy but most of the time i feel my sounds won't get to their level and makes me kind of shy to participate...
When they are less experienced than me i get bored as they browse through thousand presets to find their beloved synth and try to write something acceptable... maybe that's why i feel i don't want to be like that for superior producers hehe.
Thus im more a solo artist... although i have shared a lot of time at the studio and learned a lot, some of the times i have met guys with almost same level of knowledge that is the only situation in which i feel really comfortable working since we can share ideas and experiment in the same dimension.
Also i liked timetraveler comment, it is very important to take inspiration from real life beauty.
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Obelizk
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Posted : Dec 21, 2010 23:23
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i've never really worked with anyone on anything in real life. on the internet, i've started a collab song once, but the guy had some stuff in his life he had to deal with so he disappeared. soooo I'm still inexperienced in this aspect. I've worked in actual bands though, and although it's cool and makes it a lot easier to get whole songs done, for you to get 'your' vision down, doing it yourself is better, I'd say. Otherwise you have to make compromises, and like... who wants to do that unless the people you are working with are in that same headspace as you. Led Zeppelin for instance had this 'almost psychic' ability to know what each of the other members was doing (saw it in a documentary, but it's really just a fact through their music). Maybe it's the same with electronic - the more time you spend with a person you make music with, the better the end result will be.
It takes a strong kind of bond to really be comfortable working with someone, because when you're writing, you're really putting your whole self on the line if you expect to make something great.
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Architekt
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Posted : Dec 22, 2010 00:40
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Fully agree with the balance aspect. The thing I've noticed though from back in the days when I used to write all my music on guitar, I actually wrote some of my best pieces when I was going through hard times in my life. I also have a friend (who played bass in my band) who was quite often depressed, and he was able to write the most beautiful music consistently.
That brings me to another question to do with composition and motivation:
Is it easier to channel the energy from your experiences in life outside of music when your life is unbalanced? For example; bad relationships, weird experiences, feeling down etc.
Or, is it easier to compose when your mind is at peace, and your life is balanced?
@ Obelizk:
I feel exactly the same way - I have never collaborated with electronic music, but I always felt writing music in a band situation compromised my vision too much.. Sounds arrogant I know, but when having the music the way you feel it should be makes you truly happy, and others just put any part anywhere it fits without much thought...
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Obelizk
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Posted : Dec 22, 2010 01:27
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for me, i write my best when I'm feeling great. I hate writing depressing stuff because it just makes me feel bad haha and I'm usually in good spirits as it is so I don't like to be brought down. That's why I originally liked psy - for the fun of it. I sometimes listen to rock songs, and just feel the subjects bring me down - at least what is popular now.
I've never believed that creativity has a connection with depression that much, because I've never really found it like that. There's a definitive link between creativity and bipolar disease though. Some artists will make amazing, amazing stuff when they are on a high, then make nothing for a while, then go back to being brilliant.
One of my own theories on it is that everyone who is creative has that bipolar aspect to an extent where they have those highs where they can create and those lows where nothing works. Just gotta flow with it and not go against the current.
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 16:58
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Motivation .. ?
Well , I dont see it that way .
When you still have the desire you dont have the sound .. When you get the sound you lose the passion .
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Trevon
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 18:26
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I try to remind myself to not forget my dreams.
making music, create, having fun, be free. and eventually earn some money to buy studio gear and legit software and also play live.
I guess I have no problems in starting new tracks..
almost everytime I open my daw, even for new vst testing... if a get nice sounds I immediatelly save it's as new potential track 
that's why I had many pending stuff on my hd drive, crap included  after the massive december cleaning I kept only a few worthy projects..
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 19:10
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Kick and bass are overrated.
Listen to some of your favorite tracks. What makes it kick ass? It's not the kick and bass. Of course, it's an integral part of the track, but a killer track will still sound like this even if it has a different bassline or kick or whatever.
What I do is get some kick and bass thrown in 10 minutes, without thinking about it too much. I want the track to lead me into the bassline, not build the track upon the bassline.
Spending hours on it? Pointless. Like someone said, you're going to change it anyway.
Thing is, don't spend too much time on something. Can't get the bassline right? Fuck it. The times were you had to had a specific bassline otherwise your music will be tagged as "crap" are over. That was 2003. Now it's 2011. You can make your bassline crappy as an idea on purpose actually.
It's very tempting for amateurs to wish for the "best bassline" done before any further work is accomplished, but that's wrong in my opinion. Just write, it'll be ok in the end.
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