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how to keep loudness steady while Djing?
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 14, 2004 20:58
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On 2004-12-13 20:22, john_c wrote:
What I do is this: Do NOT mix with the Crossfader.
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Same here.
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Use the volume faders exclusively. WHen you start your set, keep song 1's fader BELOW the max (so you will have room to work with. I put it at about 80-85% up, use the gain if its not loud enough).
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This is very bad advice. Alot of DJ mixers still have cheap analogue faders. The resistive properties of the faders are not lineair over all the frequencies so when you put the fader half way, it doesn't sound as good as when it is totaly open. (Highs and lows may be cut or at best muddled).
Also you are diminishing the gain with the fader and increasing it back up with the gain pots. Basicly you are making these two parts of your mixer work against each other and so are degrading the sound. Bad idea.
I know some DJS that work this way and the sound is always bad. Always.
I never use the cross-fader. (Just an extra element to degrade the sound) and always have the playing track's fader at maximum. Just use the gain pots to adjust volume as you go along. Also, I only play with the EQ when mixing (usualy cutting out bass). Once a track is going, 99% of the time the EQs are set flat. If a track really needs much EQ fixing, it shouldn't be played.
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karmaceuticals
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Posted : Dec 15, 2004 16:59
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yeah, also the crossfader is the thing that usually is fucked up first on a mixer. You only get Problems when mixing with it. (the funniest one for me was a mixer with only the EQ working properly. well, it still turned out good somehow  )
you may also need headroom because if you mix two songs of the same volume together, the overall volume will increase (also depends on how you mix).
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Undertow wrote:
Also you are diminishing the gain with the fader and increasing it back up with the gain pots. Basicly you are making these two parts of your mixer work against each other and so are degrading the sound. Bad idea.
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right, another thing to add: the level meter usually shows the value for a fully opened volume Fader (if your not viewing the master, he doesnt care ).
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UnderTow wrote:
I never use the cross-fader. (Just an extra element to degrade the sound) and always have the playing track's fader at maximum. Just use the gain pots to adjust volume as you go along. Also, I only play with the EQ when mixing (usualy cutting out bass). Once a track is going, 99% of the time the EQs are set flat. If a track really needs much EQ fixing, it shouldn't be played.
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this first time I second everything UnderTow said J/K
We do exactly the same, maybe a bit more EQ because we only play Vinyl, but that's it.
greets
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 15, 2004 19:17
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1. never cross 0 point.
2.try to b as close as u can to 0 point with eqing and gain.
3.try to play only .wav not mp3 thats sux
4.use headphones most of times u can split the 2 trax to each side track
5.listen good to ur music b4 playin it on pa infront of pplz and try to remember if track "fall" in volume etc.
6.listen to the pa/monitors careefully
7.cut eq in mix
well hope it helps.. thats what i do...
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Dec 15, 2004 19:44
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whats wrong with volume meters on mixer?
they r there to show u volume
not more
not less
so u can know which track is lower volume just by look on those meters
and ofcorse there is a gain knob to fix this
no eq
no crosover
no mp3/wav
and no monitor is matter of this
just keep those meters at same level and ur problem is solved
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Dharma Lab
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Posted : Dec 15, 2004 20:15
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On 2004-12-15 19:44, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
whats wrong with volume meters on mixer?
they r there to show u volume
not more
not less
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Channel Volume meters are a guide. Our percetion of loudness is more complex, and so I feel you can use the meters to get into a ballpar range, but always use your ears from there. Every mixer is different, so there are always exceptions.
I used to use the crossfader alot, now I only touch the thing when I'm transforming really. I am able to get much tighter control using channel faders for bringing things in & out. There's more to control, & more to mess up, so I would advse getting comfy first with your crossfader mixes.
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