Conny
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Posted : May 28, 2010 17:02:33
Im having some problem to introduce my breakdown/melodic part.
In my song i have a intense rytmic part
and want to make a breakdown/melodic part from here.But some how the melodic part/ breakdown jumps on you.How should i make a breakdown from an intense drumpart in a song and still have a nice flow ?
marcz
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Posted : May 28, 2010 17:39
Try to make a small fill/drumroll right before your breakdown and automate that drumroll with a highpass filter going from 0% to about 70%.
It's pretty basic, but it'll give you an idea i guess.
You could also make your melodic part (just the melody) start off with a lowpass filter which slowly increases to its normal value.
Another thing you'd want to do is introduce your melody in your drumroll before the breakdown, say, half a bar? That way it wont jump on you.
Nectarios
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Posted : May 28, 2010 18:08
Well, a breakdown is a breakdown. Kick, bassline, top end stop. There are two main ways of arranging things before the breakdown, you either build and build and climax on the first beat of the breakdown. A good way of introducing the melody is automating cut-off and your reverb send to that the melody comes from far away and slowly comes from the background to the foreground. Or you could avoid the climax part and start breaking the tune down in intensity 32 bars before the breakdown, strip some more 16 bars before the breakdown and the it comes in. At that part you could introduce your big lead line, again coming from the background to the fore ground so that it does not just junp out abruptly.
If you have any big leads playing right before the breakdown, send your last notes into a long delay with a long feedback so that they cross over to the breakdown, slowly fading away as the new lead comes in...to get an idea check this at 3:35
Or you could just have filtered drums instead of leads in the breakdown, like this at 3:31
Or just have the breakdown and 8 bars down the thing, do the background to foreground lead idea, like this tune
Obviously there are a million different ways to go about things, avoiding the tried and tested formulas.
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Conny
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Posted : May 28, 2010 20:15
Great thanx for the advice, a lowpass which fades the melodi in was a good advice.Really nice with clips which shows the examples Is it possible to start a tune similar to the one in the breakdown just to make the transition to the breakdown smooth ?
Im thinking about making a similar one but not as catchy as the one in the breakdown.
What other ways are there to make breakdowns ?
Im having some problems with arranging
but i usally start with an intro then kick/bass
after a while i introduce drums later on more intense drums but still i have difficulties to go to the breakdown.Should the intensity in the drums go down before you reach a breakdown ?
Nectarios
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Posted : May 28, 2010 20:30
There are probably infinite ways make breakdowns, there is no real "right" way of making it, as no one can tell you how you should write your own music. For example you could have the intensity of the drums going up, but then again, depending on what is going on in your arrangement, you could have the intensity of the drums going down and it will sound good also.
I suggested what I do, but it is your own idea of what actually sounds good to you that will show you what you need to do.
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Posted : May 29, 2010 00:59
Conny you should try using a Crash, even better a reverse cymbal into a crash to mark the breakdown... sometimes if a crash is too much of a intensity killer you can just use a reversed cymbal to keep it hanging, more of a release than a breakdown... then introduce the melody 1 bar after or something like that...
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Posted : Jun 3, 2010 11:15
Conny - It depends on how you want the melodic bit to get introduced.
In a chillout track with ethic voices and airy pads, you might want to introduce an electronic part by making it appear as a ufo in a landscape. playing with panning and phasing or something. slipping into our awareness slowly as if we barely notice it, or with a strong contrast if we do.
It all depends on how the pieces sound relatively, and how they are meant to paint a picture for the listener.
In a energetic monotone track that sounds robotic, you night want to gradually slow down, and introduce parts of a melody as molding a new groove piece by piece.
Alternatively you could go the other extreme of silence with some building up melodic elements.
Theres no right answer, but theres many wrong answers. If it sounds like its out of place then probably you havent thought about what its meant to be doing enough.
yeah . really abstract. Think of it like a picture being comprised of all the sections in a story, that fit together using colours, shapes, contrasts. Are they harmonious or complementary? Do they support or contrast each other. Think of music like a picture but in time not space.
