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how to improve the clarity / get a better sounding track???
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DJPsYbAbA / psy-d fx
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 06:57
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hey guys.....many a times it has happenened that though i export my final track in fruityloops it always ends up sounding flat, i.e. half of the instruments cant be heard....anyone knows a suggestion where in i can get a better sounding track, or something sounding great......
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Jeto
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 08:52
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try boosting and eqing the frequencies of the thoigns soudnind dull
add effects such as reverbs delays etc..
just use some tools to enhance ur sound
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zooter
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 08:59
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As a thumbrule, i never consider the exported track (from FL, Reason etc) to be the final product.
i usually run it through wavelab and use compression, limiting etc to enhance the quality of the track. well, this is getting a bit off-topic, so back to topic.
Like Jeto said, proper eqing could be the key. Another possibility is to export the track in WAV using the highest quality possible (use all possible options like "Tiny Dithering", "Alias" etc -- sorry i don't remember the options offhand)...hope this helps |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 09:39
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Try using a high-pass filter, and roll off frequencies below 100-500 Hz. on all instruments, except kick & Bass. If you do this, you make room for the bass & kick.
Also try a low cut below 20-30 Hz on the kick & bass to lose some low frequency rumble.
Then check which instruments are playing at the same time (clashing) when the song sounds muddy. Isolate the problem, and solve it by panning those instruments to different locations, cutting (eq-ing) overlapping frequencies of those instruments that are not really important or removing one of the instruments alltogether.
Most of the time you don't need to have many musical elements playing at the same time anywayz, because the listener can only pay attention to a few at a time.
You may also want to try compression and limiting to make some instruments sound more powerful and to make the mix a bit louder.
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yumade40
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 10:53
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high pass lowpass filterswhenever needed.....
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 13:15
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Compression & eq.
That's what you need.
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DJPsYbAbA / psy-d fx
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 14:46
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yeah ive exhausted the use of compressors, delays but yeah i will ry the high pass now....... and zooter i think using wavelab may make the difference........take care caio
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orange
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 18:13
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iff the track sounds flat in a bad way in the beggining whatever you do in the mastering departement will not fix it you need the track to sound as lively you can before mastering so it can become pro clean and sparkiling after the mastering
use better eq and compression in the making prosses and you will see that not much eq is needed in mastering stage only some compression and limiting to bring it up
i sey all that from my personal experience and this is not absolit you can do whatever you think sounds better
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Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 18:55
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DJPsYbAbA,i think that u need to cut 20-30 Hz an than put limiter like L3(waves plugs).
by the way oll this prosess is in the wavelab.
good luck
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 18:58
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somtime a lack of of high frequenices make the sound a bit dull. check if your mixes contains highs. |
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 23:02
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basically i think is that .... wat all others above said are just fixes / workarounds to bad mixes ...
i only agree with mike a here .... u need to improve on the general mixing to be very short and precise ..
good luck ! |
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H2O
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 23:30
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I will suggest you to learn compression as well , try to group channels together and compressing them using side chain or simple compression .
Grouping In mixer - This would allow you to work on both channels together at once
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Connect FX channel 2(for example kick) <out> and FX channel 3 (for example bass) <out> to FX channel 4 .
Side Chain - Should make signal cut by another signal at chain , which is helpful for bass + kick connection
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For sidechaining i would recommend TCWorks Native Bundle v3+ with side chain abillity since i don't sure how to use side chain in Waves Diamond 5.0 which is great also . (Just think about fame using 5000$ plugins , i almost cum).
On TCWorks Native Bundle v3 , load first sidechain effect on certain channel as 1 and side chain effect two as 2 , load compressor - deesser (from same pack only) on other fx channel and tweak until you find right sounding .
Equalizing
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For equalizing , won't advice you to work with it unless you sure you can't afford to keep certain frequency range , because i do trust on ppl who do samples more than on myself , for VSTi better to use internal processing such filtering inside of VSTi than external EQ .
Now more on your question , is the same sound you hear after export/render is the sound you hear inside of Fruity Loops ? Because from you question i understand that you somehow pointing on "after exporting it sounds flat " . Flat means that frequency response of your track near the mid line which is good i think , what do you mean by flat also ?
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Jikkenteki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2004 01:54
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I would also check and make sure you are not over compressing everything. Compression is a great tool, but I have been noticing a trend where everyone seems to be compressing damn near everything, and rather heavily too. Compression can pull out certain freq.s in your sounds well, but it can also kill all the dynamics of a tracks and thus should be applied carefully as it simply is ALWAYS nessecary, especially with electronic music, which doesn't generally have the huge dynamic range that live instruments do. Sound design is the most important aspect and if compression is called for, by all means use it, but it definately is needed on every part of every track (if you don't believe me, do some searching for the thread in which Deedrah replied about how he didn't use compression on the bass of Reload, etc, for a more "professional" opinion on the subject).
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