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How to get those Laser/spacy sounds ?

Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 19:38
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On 2012-11-28 19:35, Ryu-X wrote:
Ok nice to hear that, maybe i can use the Sega Nomad (Sega Genesis) Synth i want to build in some months (it uses Yamaha YM2612 FM Sound Chip), till then i will be playing around a little and maybe achieve any similar sound soon
Thanks guys




Or get a cheap Virus if you can't afford analogue.
It has FM, wavetables, ring mod and a very deep modulation matrix.
It won't sound as "pure" but most people don't care about that anyway.
          
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 19:44
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On 2012-11-28 18:54, PoM wrote:
mate your leads and fxs are really transanding me , sound great, the sounds have a nice dimension/ separation/ 3d .. all these quality absent of most full on i have in my itune playlist..not much pleasure listen to that music tbh.. it s too sterile and 2d


You have an XS mate. That leaves the Phatty standing in terms of modulation and has a great sound. You can easily find a used Moog MF-102 to put that through...and any other source you want really.
The Moogerfoogers are guitar pedals, designed for people to stomp on...they are built like tanks, so a used one is a good choice.

Bought mine new. Best 280€ I've ever spent.
          
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 21:10
yeah but i m totally broke, maybe in few months when i have money to spend, i would like some fx too..maybe a eclipse i have seen some at good price but i need to be sure it bring something over my plugins .

about the ring have you tried it on voice? a mate told me a ring on voice is the shit, never tried..

the Xs also have a ring mod that use vco A as one input but i m not sure i can t do the same routing as you do.

inspired be your post i made some really cool "classic" fx.. then i got lost having fun and made some more unusual sounds
recorded some uselss noise live tweaking for fun...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Ring%20live%20tweaking.mp3
crazy shit , damn when the modulation is fast as some point it can feel like the sound try to come from the future lol the reality is not fast enought dunno how to dscribe it but its sicks

it dont happen in that sample but i really like when with the ring it sound kind of lofi ,a bit similar to rate reducers but still hifi with no harsness
PoM
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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 21:52
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On 2012-11-28 19:35, Ryu-X wrote:
Ok nice to hear that, maybe i can use the Sega Nomad (Sega Genesis) Synth i want to build in some months (it uses Yamaha YM2612 FM Sound Chip), till then i will be playing around a little and maybe achieve any similar sound soon
Thanks guys




very soon yes it take 2 minute to get the basic sound , but then from this we could write 15 pages as their is lot of variation that lead to good leads .
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 22:01
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On 2012-11-28 21:10, PoM wrote:
yeah but i m totally broke, maybe in few months when i have money to spend, i would like some fx too..maybe a eclipse i have seen some at good price but i need to be sure it bring something over my plugins .



I had an Eventide Eclipse in 2004



and it pissed over everything at the time...but that was 2004. Sounded brilliant and not just for crazy modulation stuff....the reverbs of it where stunning as well.

How much do they go for these days?
          
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 22:09
i have seen some eclipse v4 800 euros new but it was a deal to jump on it..i was broke hehe 700/800 secondhand
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 22:10
Nice! They were like £2000 back then. Hmmm...           
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 22:12
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On 2012-11-28 22:10, Nectarios wrote:
Nice! They were like £2000 back then. Hmmm...




now i think it s around 1900 new, but second hand its often sold cheaper than the real value cause of the h3000 ,dsp 4000 and above that are just a bit more money
Ryu-X
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Posted : Nov 28, 2012 23:22
Thanks for all the hints and tips..
i started on a new track today and got something that sounds a little like what i am aiming for.. still miles away, but well, gotta keep on tweaking i guess..

I didnt work on the melody of the FM yet.. just finished this and wanted to upload something before going to bed.. Thanks all



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PoM
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Posted : Nov 29, 2012 00:44
nice man ! experiment and try other synth it might get you closer to what you are after, but i find this one sound good
Kryten
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Posted : Nov 29, 2012 16:43
Probably a dumb question, but how can I get the VCF on a phatty to self oscillate??


Ah, nevermind. I just found it in the manual           My first track:
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 30, 2012 00:10
is self oscilation when u put filter resonance to maximum creatin a *generic sine wave* ?           
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 30, 2012 00:57
yes, not necessary at maximum depend the synth. if you use keyboard tracking it should tracks more or less the key played depending the synth.

some sound like 808 kicks are generated using a filter like this i think, try to put the resonance just before it self oscillate, then send a short pulse and you gonna get a kind of 808 kicks . this technic can work great to make some percussion wiht or wihtout envelop on the filter to control pitch...
Ryu-X
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Posted : Dec 11, 2012 02:59
hey, i got myself a nord rack 2 for christmas, anyone familiar with this swedish masterpiece ? It has FM Modulation so i guess it will be all good for the kind of sound i want to make ? I guess its just about tweaking




i like the filter, it seems to go up to ultrasonic sound, no limits..
i played around with just the filter playing only the trigger note on the rack (havent got my masterkeyboard yet).
seems soundclouds compression cant handle all those mad frequencies o_o



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Ryu-X
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Posted : Dec 15, 2012 01:42
hey guys, i am working on this track and would ask for some short advice.. i am not so happy with the bassline, anyone got some hints for me to get a better groove ?
Thanks



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