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Posted : Feb 23, 2013 19:42
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On 2008-10-05 16:03, Colin OOOD wrote:
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The secret is lots of experience and lots of practise. There are no shortcuts to training your ears...
Very true, it took me years to get where I wanted, and btw. I am still becoming better, improving my mix, the stepping stones of improvement have become smaller, but they are still there...
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Posted : Feb 23, 2013 19:54
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On 2013-02-23 19:16, Fractal Helix wrote:
There's is no secret to getting stuff sounding fat and crystal clear, rather there is a 'nack' to it. fatness, even on single oscillator sounds can usually be acheived with some nice harmonic distortion, either by the use of analog gear, or vst's that emulate that analog fatness (sausage fattener, psp vintage warmer, ohmforce stuff to name a few). getting stuff crystal clear is the real artform here I recon; its a combination of careful processing and mix arrangement, the less sounds that are going on at once, the harder you can push these sounds and the easier the are to distinguish against each other, too many sounds makes a cluttered mix and can sound messy, if you really like these sounds then just spread them out in the arrangement or chop between them.
EQ is the real beast you have to tame with this stuff, but that just takes time and letting your ears ajust, knowing what needs cutting and what might needs boosting, what needs presence and what needs to stay far back. i think the secret your after is patience, not to say that its easy to obtain.
i understood almost everthing u said, one doubt:
you said about one osc sound can sound fat, so we are talkin about one instrument track to make this fat lead,alredy enought to rock te track,with other secondaries sounds in the background,
or its about two instrument tracks(same melody on both), overlayed, both fath sounds, EQd, cuting low frequency of some, boosting
mids of the other
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Posted : Feb 27, 2013 00:12
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On 2008-10-06 11:44, Nectarios wrote:
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On 2008-10-05 16:03, Colin OOOD wrote:
The secret is lots of experience and lots of practise.
What he said.
what u sed
lol true tho..keep at it should all fall into place - sumone sed distortion - omnicide can do wonders as a function to control stereo width from mono to stereo in each band which can really widen shit up, i guess its in the name - cide as in "side" stereo - also the placement of ya plugin chains befor and after makes massive differences to the image and clarity
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Posted : Feb 27, 2013 08:11
question: "what is the weather like outside"
answer: "use sylenth m8 bro"
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 12:49
this is a nice
Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 15:44
nothing sound phat with huge depth and dimension these days, too compressed !
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 17:48
Compressor.. side chain bass with kick.... leads with kick.. drums with kick..
play with compresor and reverb..
then add distrotion.. distortion makes every thing fat..
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 21:31
""depending on the source" softtube Focusing Equalizer - Elevayta wider boy - omnicide-(being clinical with the Mid and side depths in each band) - Waves Inphase - Bx Dynamic Eq - M/S Equalization - Bx Control V2
hmm have i missed anything? nice subtle roomish verb fx send
Order of chain depends
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 21:54
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nothing sound phat with huge depth and dimension these days, too compressed !
hear ya - best comp that doesnt do to much damage and keep transients defined and bring out the spaces in between with a lil Knee i think i still love psp vintage warmer.. that goes at end of the chain in my sound designs at times to bring out any extra clarity to be heard,cant be pushed to hard tho like u say it will collapse everything in onits self...
its also the combo of wet,dry and good arrangement with automation defines that sence of space also.. just keep practicing u will eventually define it.
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Posted : Feb 28, 2013 22:10
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On 2008-10-04 22:24:54, elesdifrend wrote:
when i am doing a track, with FL8, or ableton, and using good vst´s, albino, predator, alien303 & etc... i still get them just to sound like toys.....not this nice fat crystal clear sound typical for a good track. How do they do it? whats the secret?
Albino is a good analog vsti
Predator not so much, and Alien 303 is absolutly a digital sounding plastic shit that aparently people think its a psy bass emulator
they sound like toys mostly because they lack character... you need to turn the sound more "spicy"
if you excite the harmonics and use some tapping coloring plugins, you might make them sound like real beasts, its a matter of your earing perception and if you are able to mix them
you can also try to use a nice warm analogish chorus fx as buss/send and open the sound a bit...
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Posted : Mar 2, 2013 03:13
a lot is how you eq these sounds,if it s too thin it may lacking in the low mids. saturation that emphasis the low mids can make thing sound ticker , more dense too.
between mudiness boxiness and phatness the gap is small can be tricky in the low mids.. i find it s the more tricky area a lot happen there for phat and clear sound , it s area where you can have serious acoustic issu too
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 2, 2013 05:48
do it with a nice eq..Sonnox oxford and Pro q ive tested loads and out of all the years i stick with these for the surgical removal of hollow rezy shitty harmonics..
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Posted : Mar 2, 2013 07:04
Pom have u tried the focusing eq from softube? really nice mate passively
..nice sounding, really warm, does a great job of tidying up shitty sounding samples too - and they say "u cant polish a turd" haa
defo a none surgical favorite, came with 2 others which also active - sounds more harsher to my ears than the passive
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Posted : Mar 2, 2013 15:11
havent tried it but i m fine with the eq i uses. i sold my duende that to me had some of the best clean eq with great hp/lp filters (algorithmix minimum phase eq) but now use mostly waves H eq itb, to me it s one of the best sounding , the curves /phase can lead to good punchy result and one of their digital mode is really intresting .
i also really like sonimus stuff , sone eq.. with just a bit of preamp turned on it can sound very analogish.
with h eq most of my digital eq need are covered though.. if iwant analog i go for nebula or hardware
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Posted : Mar 2, 2013 15:44
have to check the waves in phase plugins could be usefull, lately i m experimentating more and more with phase on synth insteed of track delay, it can lead to less overlap in some case so theorically it should be possible to get lower clashing peaks and more loudness for similar punch (when aligning drums , kick and bassline ect..)
about the topic in mixing it s often so easy solution to get things right that we don't think to it, thats what take long time in a way cause everything is in front of us when lisetening ,all the solutions ,nothing is hiden .
