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How to get over cheese?

PoM
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Posted : May 8, 2011 13:54

maybe the problem is that you want to stop sounding like a copycat and bring your own thing ,we all have different personality use it, express yoursefl and don t limit your creativity with genre names,that the way ppl have created new style in the past and make music evolve.when someone talented come with good stuff, his own sound... the amount of copycats make it a new style these day... strange cause in the past it was not like this.. astral projection could have lot of copycats but i dont know any, same for total eclipse, transwave , hallucinogen ,x dream... it s like today it s a amount of fanatic that make music, and their only aim is to sound like artist A or artist B

onionbrain
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Posted : May 8, 2011 19:51

hey nice topic!

i'll tell you some of my story. its not a rule, but many people say the music is original, different than the psytrance standards.

i began trying to produce in 2005, when i used to listen to 1200 mics, eskimo, shanti and projects like that... but i've always liked darker music even before meeting e-music. (rock bands like tool, alice in chains, deftones, doors, pink floyd...).
after some time i met darkpsy and loved it! but in 2006, 2007 it was getting pop too. this forum 'promotional releases' session was full of darkpsy albuns and compilations, it was starting to get kinda saturated..

and then i listened to Sensient's Antifluoro album. it changed my life! for me it was brand new fresh music, very different from everything i had listened until then, i was amazed! from then i changed the kind of music i was searching for on the long periods i was working on cubase. it was the starting point to getting my personality on music, but not the only one, cause if i simply copy one's music, it doesnt matter how much it is original, mine would be a COPY.

so i began to take that as a starting point, but merged it with nice thing i used to listen on a lot of different music, from rock n roll to darkpsy, progtrance, fullon , techno and everything that passed on my ears and i liked.

besides this, i began to search for themes for the songs. you know, music with a story?
started to read a lot of science fiction books, and to see movies, and documentaries about space exploration and ufo themes.

in the end i had a lot of nice music, that makes people dance and really enjoy the party, but it wasn't standard for most of the labels out there. so what i've done? founded my netlabel and stopped worrying about being on any kind of standards.
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its not a step-by-step manual of how to be an original producer, just an overview of what happened to me..

its more like producing what makes you feel good and makes the people dance and get into a state of trance. i see lots of producers making nice music, but so much worried with thoughts like "i like this song i've done, but its not good because i cannot classify it" .. thats bullshit =P

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hahaha i hope some of what i wrote makes sense. i'm not that good on english

cheers!

http://www.myspace.com/onionbrain
http://www.soundcloud.com/onionbrain

http://uroborosrecords.com/

PoM
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Posted : May 8, 2011 20:08

you make more sense than me haha... suck even more in english

.. lol your name

Endeavour
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Posted : May 8, 2011 20:34

"its more like producing what makes you feel good and makes the people dance and get into a state of trance."

+1

www.soundcloud.com/endeavour

kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : May 8, 2011 21:24

there always will be new psy music and always will be good music so dont worry.My advice and what i try to do is to throw something random or unexpected...like random breaks..diff. time signatures..crazy breakdowns that make no sense if u try to sounds like everyone else who the f cares then?Def. use weird chord progressions..6ths and 7thsn and sus's and Add9's..melodies.//and listen to lots of music besides psy it helps.

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http://www.facebook.com/KabbalisticVillage

The Greatest Sophistication is figuring out how not to be sophisticated

aciduss
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Posted : May 8, 2011 22:16

Thnx Onionbrain i apreciate it, will check your tunes out too

boom.

greenball
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Posted : May 9, 2011 03:23

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Plasmorh
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Posted : May 9, 2011 03:35

Quote:

On 2011-05-03 09:19, Oni Katsu wrote:
I know, what about completely stop using saw waves and make everything with square waves instead? im sure that will make your kicks sound pretty different.

Hahhaha.

thats a nice idea --'

I want a spare brain.... or 2.

greenball
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Posted : May 9, 2011 03:37

Padmapani

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Posted : May 9, 2011 03:45

good post onionbrain. and good music btw, your tracks got me into dark prog. listening to 'spice travel' atm

@mods
can't we ban this troll already?

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