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How to get my own uniqe sound?
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gutter
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 15:03
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I consider "unique sound" something that depends on the mixing techniques, the "color" of each ones mixes, channel strips, dynamic processing, fx, reverb is one of the most important factors that determine your style and the vibe you want to give.
Also it can be sound synthesis techniques, "older" sounds reconstructed with different timbres, new unheard sounds
But again it can also be different structure and movement, than usual formulaic patterns always, things rearranged in such way that they "create" their own formula, yours
And on top of these the experience in mixing, the knowledge of the tools youre using and good listening environment or good knowledge of the environment youre working in to be able to have the according balance and space your mixes should have (mine as well)
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On 2010-04-26 23:20, Maine Coon wrote:
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Look at Ocelot's music. Not all of it is even trance. He's been doing fine so far.
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A great example of a guy who has taken it far away in musicality and storytelling but not in production imho (i love ocelot music btw)
If only Aaron mixes were like Frank'e .....
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 15:48
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Ocelot is a prime example of staying unique (he's the most unique artist I've ever met personality wise). I've got a horde of unreleased tunes from him and they're just all so good and different.
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 15:58
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On 2010-04-27 15:03, gutter wrote:
I consider "unique sound" something that depends on the mixing techniques, the "color" of each ones mixes, channel strips, dynamic processing, fx, reverb is one of the most important factors that determine your style and the vibe you want to give.
Also it can be sound synthesis techniques, "older" sounds reconstructed with different timbres, new unheard sounds
But again it can also be different structure and movement, than usual formulaic patterns always, things rearranged in such way that they "create" their own formula, yours
And on top of these the experience in mixing, the knowledge of the tools youre using and good listening environment or good knowledge of the environment youre working in to be able to have the according balance and space your mixes should have (mine as well)
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yes me too i think production taste is a big part of our own sound, all the itb mass sound alsomst the same with lack of depth and separation that otb mix give wihtout any efforts, it can really make the tracks stand out (it s maybe possible itb but need more work and experience).the other day i was listening some old tracks summed into a old mackie 24/4 and done on a mpc with some synths , fuck i have been amazed at the depth ,the sound was so different than itb mix not better maybe worst it s a matter of taste but it have big balls. imo about production the more we use the same tools the more it get harder to stand out. |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 16:19
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On 2010-04-27 12:17, -=Mandari=- wrote:
hmmm, quite cant get that. why will a sampler make my sound unique?
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Not unique as in “that artist’s signature sound”. But unique as in “one-off, heard only here”. As in “reading how-to-do-it-in-sylenth threads is not going to help you reproduce it”.
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and many people loughed at me and asked me why should one have a concept for music, but at the end its just like that. if you wanna do real good and wanna be unique, create something new, its easier to think about a crazy concept for your music and work that out.....
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Frankly, I can not imagine how else you would create anything. Otherwise, you are either a copycat or a monkey on a typewriter. Yeah, you may manage to sound like Astrix – but who cares? Yeah, you may end up with “King Lear”, but most likely you’ll end up with a sheet of gibberish – just like other monkeys.
Yes, he does seem rather enthusiastic...
Like I said many times: pretty much anything would be better than Tiesto’s arms in the air 
I could not help noticing, though, that hardly anybody danced there, besides him.
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gutter
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 16:24
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should throw him tomatoes and ketchup
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marcz
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 16:33
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Creating sounds on your own by starting with a init patch is the best way to get your unique sound going.
But what really defines YOU, in my opinion, is the micro tuning. All the small things you think people wont notice.
Could be anything from low velocity notes playing to filter automations and so on.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 19:01
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On 2010-04-27 16:33, marcz wrote:
Creating sounds on your own by starting with a init patch is the best way to get your unique sound going.
But what really defines YOU, in my opinion, is the micro tuning. All the small things you think people wont notice.
Could be anything from low velocity notes playing to filter automations and so on.
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agree with that...
plus have a original soul ( what i mean s if u are a nut licker or someone who trends to copy the people personality around u , u wont have a original personality which will make u to fail in creatin something never done before )
plus dont give a crap if people wont like it ( around the earth it will always have a someone who will like ur stuff )
plus avoid to pre think in a style when u start to make a new track.. (start it with an empty head , the only goal u have in mind s that loop that s playin in ur head ( the echoes of ur inside ))
ignore the tecnics, its all bout feeling ( EG. u start a track thinkin bout doin it in some determinate scale.... ur originality will finish right at that moment )
to do something new s to do something with an empty mind ....u arent expectin nothing, u are just doin it. ....
but it might take a longer time.. to feel satisfacted.....
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 19:50
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On 2010-04-27 16:33, marcz wrote:
Creating sounds on your own by starting with a init patch is the best way to get your unique sound going.
But what really defines YOU, in my opinion, is the micro tuning. All the small things you think people wont notice.
Could be anything from low velocity notes playing to filter automations and so on.
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agree with that...
plus have a original soul ( what i mean s if u are a nut licker or someone who trends to copy the people personality around u , u wont have a original personality which will make u to fail in creatin something never done before )
plus dont give a crap if people wont like it ( around the earth it will always have a someone who will like ur stuff )
plus avoid to pre think in a style when u start to make a new track.. (start it with an empty head , the only goal u have in mind s that loop that s playin in ur head ( the echoes of ur inside ))
ignore the tecnics, its all bout feeling ( EG. u start a track thinkin bout doin it in some determinate scale.... ur originality will finish right at that moment )
to do something new s to do something with an empty mind ....u arent expectin nothing, u are just doin it. ....
but it might take a longer time.. to feel satisfacted.....
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fully agree on that.Also I think it's no need for believing of not to understand how already existing sounds can be done is unique or useful,not to get help and the other way round,if you are an expirienced spirit than you are unique on your own - this is really what makes you unique - expiriences in life and such .
Much more than anything else.You can learn a ton in short time,but you have to grow lke sensimillia for the harvest to become something special IMO.
Better 2 spend some times to feel satisfied with own sound - like Colin OOOD mentioned.
Learning as much as possible ,dig alredy existed sounds - to make sth new in best case.
I also think it's for sure good when not hearing the new avarage psytrance and trying be like them so to say ,but I believe it is good when you have at least some music from this genre that you feel and love.
If you love it you won't bite it IMO.
It can reminds you sometimes of the magic you once found or how or from what you connected to this music.
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 19:54
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I think some other good advice to making a unique sound is to take your time. Don't rush pumping out something that sounds passable. Take the time to apply your own angle or ideas to things (synthesis, mixing, mastering).
Also, spend time trying out new things you haven't done before. I looking at my vsts and using ones I haven't used in a while. Sometimes the results are good, sometimes not so good, but it's good to learn this way so you don't get stuck doing the same thing over and over again. Same can be done with choosing different things to manipulate in the mod matrix.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 01:11
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Step 1: Get girl/boyfriend; fall in love.
Step 2: Go through excruciating, heart-wrenching breakup with aforementioned person.
Step 3: Profit!
Worked for me 
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 13:27
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Vermeee
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 23:07
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On 2010-04-28 01:11, Axis Mundi wrote:
Step 1: Get girl/boyfriend; fall in love.
Step 2: Go through excruciating, heart-wrenching breakup with aforementioned person.
Step 3: Profit!
Worked for me
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tbh imo thats not creativity thats therapy ... so dont surprize me if the profit s high 
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gutter
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Posted : Apr 29, 2010 16:00
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Midimiliz - Phenomena _ Atmos rmx ... smoky and blurred but punchy and crisp at the same time .. the hole mix is like powder, a phat colored powder.. art 'n' trance
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Posted : May 27, 2010 05:58
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I think ultimately, having your "own" sound basically means innovation- which comes down to experimentation.
The thing about experimentation that's so frustrating is, it takes 10 times longer to get a "good" sound than it does if you are just copying someone. And also, if you are copying a sound, you have probably heard it many times, so even if you are halfway there, you can tell it will sound good because you have already heard the finished result many times.
But if you have a lot of fun tweaking synths, trying new approaches to FX, you will definitely create a unique sound. If you have fun spending hours doing this- and don't care if sometimes there is no result at the end and have to throw everything away, then you'll do fine. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 27, 2010 12:11
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i think it depends a lot about your personality , if 10 guys do something some will just do the same ,not only in music it s like that for everyhting in life, most ppl follow the mass and some others will just do the oposite.
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