Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 23:20
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Look at Ocelot's music. Not all of it is even trance. He's been doing fine so far.
You can be a trend setter, a trend follower or not care about trends at all. The same as in investing. And with the same results: trend setters win big time if the trend picks up (and go bust if it does not). Trend followers may win or lose - depending on how early they jump on the bandwagon. Mavericks tend to do better than average but usually don't enjoy much of fame (except for Buffet, of course).
Right now, I am trying to monkey other people by reproducing their work. When I learn to walk (in terms of technical skills), I'll just write whatever I feel like: psywaltz, techpolka, electrosymphony - whatever
But then I know for sure I will never do it professionally. If by "spreading your music out" you mean just getting it out to listeners - I'd just do what I like. If you mean you want to make a living by selling your music (live or as records) - I would not know what to say. I still think being a maverick probably would be better. Trend followers tend to be one-hit wonders (if ever).
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 23:29
I like artists like Braincell or Lamat who have a very distinct sound, but doesn't get repetitive/boring (even after tons of releases).
yea...if you become too happy with your own "unique" sound it can be a setback....i have heard many tracks that sound like other tracks by the same artist...& beyond a point that's not fun anymore...
+1 on lamat...like his style...but i have usually liked his tracks that are released on compilations as opposed to his full length albums
another guys sound that i like is bitkit...he has his own interesting style
i can explain it to you...but i cannot understand it for you...
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 01:18
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On 2010-04-26 23:29, Ascension wrote:
I like artists like Braincell or Lamat who have a very distinct sound, but doesn't get repetitive/boring (even after tons of releases).
I constatly fight the temptation of making every thread a "Jean-Michel Jarre apprecieation thread"...
But I think he's worth mentioning here. 30+ years an going - and I still did not get tired of his music.
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 02:53
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On 2010-04-26 23:08, dj chichke wrote:
thanks to all your answeres. another thing that came to my mind is that sometimes artists too much use the same sounds and same structure of the track and then it's becomes boring. the line between unique sound and boring music seems to be a bit short.
till know i didn't think about unique sound, i just tried to achieve good sound and do my best at the creative side. i'm not sure if should i think about having uniqe sound or should i just do what i like to do every track and that's it. what i didn't said that also i'm not sure 100% on my style. i do fullon. but 1 track can be very morning and another track can be close to dark, with much psychedelic sounds. do you think is it bad?
i think you should make just what you like, and the more tunes you do the more it will help to find your way.
about making one track morning then dark it s maybe cause of the influence you get ,the few artists that i know none listen psytrance , they get influence from other kind of music it help to not sound like others.
the daleks
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 05:00
good advice on here
this is actually very important and i think the easiest but often overlooked way is in the sound design.. i.e. develop a palette of sounds you paint with. distinctive artists are know for there use and placement of colors, and the same with music, distinguished musicians are known for their use of tone, the instruments they use, the distortion pedals, etc all which is lovingly and caringly handcrafted to get that particular sound that moves them and their muse.
this also makes one recognizable.. i.e. you hear jimi or eric, and even though they may be playing the same Muddy Waters song, its that tone you know them by
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hehe.. have you HEARD splitting the atom!!?? the album is intense!!
on being unique, I would suggest to use a sampler.. first and foremost follow all of the philosophically mentioned advice already given. but lets face it.. this is psytrance.. if people actually leave composing classical music because they truly beleive in there heart its all already been done.. then what do you think they would say about a genre that revolves around such a tight tempo/time sig/beat/rhythm.......
of course synthesis is open for wonderful exploration and psy is great in that everything besides the temp/ts/beat/rythm can vary greatly and still sound "psychedelic" infact its probably the original intentions.......
but where was I.. yeah.. technically, using a sampler and a field recorder is the only way to be 100% sure you're being unique.. even if someone were to record the same train going through the same station at the same time on a different day the frequencies most likely not be the same due to billions of varying factors. a synth whether hard (yeah yeah this is debatable) or soft.. while improbable, could def. be modulated the exact same way you did it.
I listen to alot of this newer breaks/mid tempo/dubstep stuff and those guys are saying that every channel in there project will eventually consist of a sampler.. and I guess thats the case for most of you around here as well, I am just starting to realise the potential.
awesome topic though.. and I wish you the best!!
ot: but: has anyone asked psykovsky how he manages? I would love to hear some recommendations on others that have the same sound.. cause I haven't found any.. and yeah I know there are a thousand that are similar.. but no one touches that overall cold sketchy mental sound, please let me know!
but where was I.. yeah.. technically, using a sampler and a field recorder is the only way to be 100% sure you're being unique..
hmmm, quite cant get that. why will a sampler make my sound unique?
i agree with nectarios, the only way getting unique sound is working a lot on your very own sound librarys, work on sound design and explore the world of synthesis.
at the end im bored by a lot of psysounds used tons of times by thousands of artists just beeing lazy to create new stuff. anyways a lot of these sounds are typical for psygenre and worth to know how to create.
also i cant agree with the "dont listen to music style you wanna do" thingy.... if you´re on that point, its already too late
but yeah, i agree that trendsetters got the 50/50 chance that their creation will work on the floor. it´s always kinda more hard to bring something new to the people. on one side they get bored by the usual, on the other side they dont accept new stuff from the beginning.
and many people loughed at me and asked me why should one have a concept for music, but at the end its just like that. if you wanna do real good and wanna be unique, create something new, its easier to think about a crazy concept for your music and work that out.....
just my two cents, at the end it´s up to you to think about what this genre misses and how you can push your stuff to something that matches. sure you could involve your show and create a liveshow jumping naked around on stage while your daw plays the set and you just do a great party for your own and others......
something like this came to my mind (just not naked that guy)
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 14:00
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On 2010-04-27 10:31, -aeon- wrote:
i think it was Noisia (drum and bass producers) who said that 'your style is just everything else you listen to apart from drum and bass'.
interesting, no?
yes intresting indeed .
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 14:09
a other point we should not forget , in a style like psytrance what matter is to put the listeners in a trance state with a intelligent flow. thats what matter the most, on the dancefloor no one care if your music is inovative or if you have your own sound as long as your tunes stand out by blasting the dancefloor . a good old formula can work 10 times better that trance made to impress or with no intelligence just good for living rooms listening. it s easy to forget the reason why we started making music and what we wanted to share with others ,if you stick to that it may be more easy to make YOUR music
