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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 06:23
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Ektoplazm is good as well. Released two albums and a remix as Disco Hooligans, and the first Ohmnidrive release was piped on Ektoplazm through Enlight Records. It helped us gain a large audience as there are a lot more people downloading music from there, since it is free...we had a combined 40k+ downloads. Then Neurobiotic helped to start traveling (although we did play Germany and Holland before we released on Neurobiotic), Mutagen helped, Blue Hour Sounds helped, it all helps, you just need to not rush your music and find a way to get it out there...all that is IF you want to travel with your expenses paid and get some studio cash as well.
So...4 years down the line...I am playing in Anjuna, Goa tomorrow 
If you are around, see you at the dancefloor!
 
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 13:35
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Yes. Most important thing this days is to find a label what will help you with promote and play live acts.
Option 1: Some labels can release digital ep + info on their page - in this case you can write to your bio about release (you can boast to your friends and party organisers)
Option 2: some labels can pay you some money+50% of sale + big (or less) promotion and help with play all over the world.
In my case, first example do nothing in my 'career'. So i think that if you have facebook, soundcloud etc it is better to wait for option no2
Ps Some labels are really professional (even this is small psytrance scene, they are). So worth to wait and not do business with 'suspicious' labels 
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vector_0
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 18:42
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i say just keep making music and posting it online. the more content you generate, the more people will follow you, which gives you a better chance of being noticed by labels.
IMO sending music to labels is a waste of time. it seems that the mere act of sending them your music completely turns them off to you. better they just hear about you on their own and then reach out to YOU.
just keep cranking out new music and don't stop.
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 00:04
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supergroover
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 10:03
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AB: but before labels do that stuff for you you need to find a label.. Vector is just saying that you won't reach labels by sending music.
I say you can reach labels that way. But it is better to have someone else that knows the people at the records label tell them to listen to your music.
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bandarlog
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 13:00
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On 2013-01-15 18:42, vector_0 wrote:
IMO sending music to labels is a waste of time. it seems that the mere act of sending them your music completely turns them off to you. better they just hear about you on their own and then reach out to YOU.
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I disagree. Of course this is the 'ideal'/utopic situation but reality is often different. If I didn't send demos to labels and organisers, I would never have any release or played at any festival. You have to be extremely talented to be sure that anything you post on, let's say soundcloud, gets viral. Reality is that there are TONS and TONS of producers all putting things online hoping to get 'discovered', who never will. Sending demos helps (and knowing the right people helps even more I guess)
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 13:20
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you can always make a label to release your stuff and friends music, some big names did and some cause they couldnt find a label. not sure it would worth it today though you may not need that much work to get your tunes out and heard.
as new comer if no label want your music it s not a indicator of his quality ! many want formated stuff and it s a lot about your name, sometimes more than the music |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 17:08
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On 2013-01-15 18:42, vector_0 wrote:
IMO sending music to labels is a waste of time. it seems that the mere act of sending them your music completely turns them off to you. better they just hear about you on their own and then reach out to YOU.
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I disagree. Of course this is the 'ideal'/utopic situation but reality is often different. If I didn't send demos to labels and organisers, I would never have any release or played at any festival. You have to be extremely talented to be sure that anything you post on, let's say soundcloud, gets viral. Reality is that there are TONS and TONS of producers all putting things online hoping to get 'discovered', who never will. Sending demos helps (and knowing the right people helps even more I guess)
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It should be labelīs work to search for music and not the oposite
when you sell a product, its up to you to research options to offer to the consumer quality...
its a fact that global music production is saturated of producers and there are many to shoose, but still, it should be a label to search
*i allready played in big festivals without sending any demo to organizers...
when you send demoīs, your putting your self into a position where you lose "negocial" strenght, its like you want to perform so much that the fact they give you that oportunitie is allready a gift...
when its not!! for a producer, perform, should NOT be a gift, but only a consequence of its work...
the same with releases, it shouldnt be seen as a gift, but as consequence
thats why the most of producers tend to be hard to be respected and earn respect, because there are way too much idiots around the world selling them selves cheaply... throwing them selfs to promoters wanting spotlight and easy fame...
an artist should have pride and should have a certain etical behavior...
Expose your music on social networks, let people come to you and not the oposite, otherwise your just someone who pretend to be ... someone who want to be...
you cant just want to be, you have to be IT naturaly... if you deserv it
and yes, only extremly talented people deserv atention... thatīs how it works! thatīs why some people is an artist, and others dont! |
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 17:38
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On 2013-01-16 17:08, Ricciardo wrote:
It should be labelīs work to search for music and not the oposite
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you talking about utopia
ok, in serious music business (where you can make milion $ from 1 song) you have a talent hunters. these people looking for talent and they have to care about artist - this is normal job like car mechanic
but in our REALLITY this is normal that you have to looking for label. i don't understand why so many people think that it's bad. when you finish study you have to search for job, only if you are a talented student then job is looking for you
http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 17:54
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On 2013-01-16 17:08, Ricciardo wrote:
It should be labelīs work to search for music and not the oposite
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you talking about utopia
ok, in serious music business (where you can make milion $ from 1 song) you have a talent hunters. these people looking for talent and they have to care about artist - this is normal job like car mechanic
but in our REALLITY this is normal that you have to looking for label. i don't understand why so many people think that it's bad. when you finish study you have to search for job, only if you are a talented student then job is looking for you
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its not an utopia at all.. its just how the things should be done...
and if a label releases music, its because they want to sell.
but what happens is that most of people its actually pretending to be something, pretending to be artist, pretending to be label managers
all that stuff, lead niches of market in electronic music to become a joke of self promotion and people who spamm their shit in every label mail without notice that THEY DONT ACTUALLY quality to ever release
itīs the same with organizing partys, there is people who dream or have the goal of someday become DJ, but thouse persons dont notice them selfs, that they dont have the skill and the talent to become what they dream off...
so its an utopia not because i am wrong, but because people is wrong... because psytrance world isnt professional like it should...
and its not a matter of "tastes" its a matter of eticīs...
ARTISTS should promote their music into a certain level, having a social network like soundcloud and facebook showing their stuff to the world is correct, its legit, its eticaly OK
what isnt OK, is Knocking everybody door looking for atention, looking to "sell things"
that situation is actualy what makes most labels not search, because as there many idiots offering their services, then they simply dont search, and as the music dont sell eiter..
why would they care?? it doesnt sell...
why would they search for good stuff if it doesnt sell
so they only release if they thing its a good oportunity, they play with luck, perhaps they try to give a hand to a known face...
everybody known this psytrance world today is a matter of contacts and "groups" and families, and not a professional world where competition is ruled by quality... everybody known that
but its all a consequence of market that it doesnt seel and people behaviour...
there is alot of good artists out there who are trully talented and YET no label ever release their stuff
iīm still wondering how a german talented guy like Cybernetikka, never released his stuff on a label.. just to mention one case! |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 19:36
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if you think about it label interest could be at keeping unrleased tunes for their djs than to release these.. it s long time i won't send any tunes to unknown peoples cause if the track is good, you can be sure its gonna be played but released ? not really, lot of labels are more about realsing friends tracks than looking for new talents, it s not really in their interest, they are etablished why they would look for more people to share the cake in these hard days.. ( really the worst scenario i describe their but that could happen ) |
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fruitopia
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 20:20
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by making music! |
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 17, 2013 03:09
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i know that its a right way, but... welcome in real world. you know what i mean?
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when you send demoīs, your putting your self into a position where you lose "negocial" strenght, its like you want to perform so much that the fact they give you that oportunitie is allready a gift...
when its not!! for a producer, perform, should NOT be a gift, but only a consequence of its work...
the same with releases, it shouldnt be seen as a gift, but as consequence |
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hmm you generalize it too much. for example, now i am in the process of signing the contract and i dont feel that they give me a gift. im just send a demo once and they write to me that they are interessed to cooperate with me. seriously i dont feel that they give me a gift. and i dont 'lose "negocial" strenght'. so, world is not just white or black
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thats why the most of producers tend to be hard to be respected and earn respect, because there are way too much idiots around the world selling them selves cheaply... throwing them selfs to promoters wanting spotlight and easy fame... |
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and yes, only extremly talented people deserv atention... thatīs how it works! thatīs why some people is an artist, and others dont!
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Sure. When im listen to some artist then i hear why people call them 'great'. maybe 10% is a 'great artist because they have uncle or father in sony or warner music'
http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
http://soundcloud.com/alien-bug
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