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how to EQ the sounds in a track
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elesdifrend
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Posted : Oct 23, 2008 17:05:30
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how to EQ a track the right way so every sound has its own space.....
for example the bass and kick share some freq´s what has to be done so each sound has its own space....and this appliable to all sounds such as hihats...and leads
thanks a lot for all the given info in
advance!!
ok sorry just realized there is the mastering threat......but i am not able to delete this post anymore.....thanks anyways!! |
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 23, 2008 20:51
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You probably won't find too much info on this in the mother of all mastering thread, and this isn't a post production question, so you're good.
Track EQing can help with making everything fit better within a mix, but it's also important that you have tracks that are already in the range you're looking for. Basically, don't set a low pass filter on a lead really low and boost the high end on it with an EQ. Too much EQing on individual tracks can also destroy your original mix and make it sound very thin, so be careful and only EQ a track if it really sounds necessary.
Kick and bass - The "blip" of the kick is usually around 2500hz, and the low end of the kick is usually focused at about 80-100hz. Most basslines have a low end focused at 80-125hz and around 250hz (the part that you actually hear more than feel). If you want more blip in your kick, raise the volume at 2500hz on your kick track and lower the volume a little bit at the same freq. on your bass. If you want more clickyness on the bass, raise the volume a little on your bass track at 250hz and lower the volume on the kick track at 250hz. I don't recommend using a LP filter or EQing around 30-50hz on the kick or the bass..it's usually better to leave that for mastering.
The same concept applies to any other track. You can use something like PAZ Analyzer to see where the frequencies are focused and EQ accordingly.
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mikechedelic
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 15:26
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 15:48
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aciduss
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 19:11
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It is more like a mater of common sense, like if making a sandwich, you say well this is low freq content then it won't need the high end that much and lowpassing it will allow my high pitched stuff to shine nice. Or the other way around, this is high fqncy content then i shall remove all bottoms, some stuff in the middle can be boosted and notched to taste.
Hard part tho is knowing which frequency is which, because each sound is different. Spectrum visualizers can become handy... and a lot of time trying it will help too.
Also try to get the sound shaped from the source, i have read this comment a lot around forums and it makes total sense, since synths have filters and eq controls try to shape your sounds from the source instead of using eq to fix it, although sometimes it is really needed.
And of course... proper acoustics / monitors |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 23:03
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Making room for each sound in the kick and bass comination is so 90's!
Today we have sidechain compression (and sidechain multiband compression I believe), which will solve all of your problems.
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aciduss
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 23:46
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^ I disagree.
Sidechain compression is a nice technique for a specific effect, that is the bass pumping after the kick. It won't solve EQ issues but hide them and won't make a perfect bassline either.
Also, IMHO a typical Kbbb psybass sounds better without sidechain compression. |
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Padmapani
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 04:36
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agreed. it sounds best if you don't have bass and kick playing at the same time. for this reason i prefer k-bb or kbkb |
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aciduss
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 05:08
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To avoid a kind of bassline because it is not so easy to eq is no good idea, you have to face your fears my dear xD |
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 10:36
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On 2011-01-11 04:36, Padmapani wrote:
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agreed. it sounds best if you don't have bass and kick playing at the same time. for this reason i prefer k-bb or kbkb
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That would be a matter of taste to be honest
If the kbbb is built up to be jumpy like Kick_-_
or Kick_--Kick_-- and so on, there wont be any huge difference if you dont lower the threshold t'ill it sounds like a Kick --Kick --Kick
BUT the kick will get a little more punch and space.
anyone agree on this? or am i just being retarded now?
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 15:31
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On 2008-10-23 17:05:30, elesdifrend wrote:
how to EQ a track the right way so every sound has its own space
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By hearing and experience ..
Each sound eq is deferent but at the same time there are not an any special rules , So if its good its good .
To creat this space let the down sound be down and the high sounds be high - Cut the highs of the lows , Cut the lows of highs . Try always bring the high sound into the maximum (Sharp) You can Then put it via compressor then play with the channel vol and the compressor vol till you got the best feeling (Same with the down to down) . Bring crystal sound to your lead , Hh loops , Mello and atmosphere pads at the same way by eqing the high - Neto high and the lows neto lows , This is simple .
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 21:30
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for the sound to have their own space it s not only equing, it s arrangement and tweaking the source first |
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Padmapani
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 21:31
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On 2011-01-11 10:36, Oni Katsu wrote:
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On 2011-01-11 04:36, Padmapani wrote:
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agreed. it sounds best if you don't have bass and kick playing at the same time. for this reason i prefer k-bb or kbkb
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That would be a matter of taste to be honest
If the kbbb is built up to be jumpy like Kick_-_
or Kick_--Kick_-- and so on, there wont be any huge difference if you dont lower the threshold t'ill it sounds like a Kick --Kick --Kick
BUT the kick will get a little more punch and space.
anyone agree on this? or am i just being retarded now?
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i'm not 100% sure what you mean (lower the threshold?), but i think i agree and that is indeed one main reason why i don't like kbbb or use that much.
@aciduss
hehe. don't worry, i've encountered that problem and solved it (with a little help of slight sidechain compression  ), but i just prefer the cleaner/less-busy low end with more space for a longer tail end of the kick. |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jan 12, 2011 01:53
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is there such a thing as sidechain multiband compression?  |
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SineFreq
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 04:34
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waves sideband c6 can do it.
and @Padmapani I think he means as long as you don't lower the threshold on the compressor to much and cause the fist B in the KBBB to drop out it will sound ok. |
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