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How to compress hi-hats?? PLZ HELP
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MadScientist
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Posted : Jun 1, 2007 23:51
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On 2007-06-01 21:15, OpTiKoOl wrote:
any exciter recommendations?! 
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I use the one that comes with logic...pretty nice one!
but also try the crysonic stuff 
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Jun 2, 2007 03:58
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illusions
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Posted : Jun 2, 2007 10:34
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Just a tiny bit of Quadrafuzz or Antares Tube works great |
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makus
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Posted : Jun 2, 2007 21:00
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On 2007-06-01 23:28, 0v3rd0s3d wrote:
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On 2007-06-01 17:16, makus wrote:
actually percussion doesnt need compression
if you arent recording drummer, then just eq each element and makeup levels.
antares tube yes!
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for me, thats it ^^ no need to complicate lol
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yes, this works with samples 100%. but if one has virtual drum synth in the project then he may need little compression to get rid of peaks.
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 00:48
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I've had Antares Tube for quite a while and I'm struggling to hear the difference between completel off and with slight drive before it starts to sound harsh.
From the website: The Drive control lets you select the degree of dynamic saturation.
I'm not realy sure what dynamic saturation is? Am I just not hearing what its doing? |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 01:37
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I compress the hi hats to equalise the volume across the sample in a way you cannot do with velocity controls or EQ. Certainly you can do it with sat like tube.
Certainly, it doesn't deaden the sound at all when done correctly - quite the opposite, and it also allows hidden details of the sound to pull through the mix that would otherwise be lost - there is nothing to stop you EQing the bits you don't like out either before or after (although my preference is after).
If I want to bring out the part of the hat after the initial hit, that is impossible to do with either EQ or velocity - this is what compression is for.
Compression is one of the most used effects on drums and percussion of all sorts. Whoever said you don't need to use compression, in my opinion, does not understand how to compress properly. Virtually every sound benefits from compression.
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mastaguru
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 14:03
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Thanx to you all guys...
I got Antares Tube now...and i got to say that is really cool!
What values do you use specifically?
Tnx
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 22:07
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On 2007-06-04 01:37, Speakafreaka wrote:
Virtually every sound benefits from compression.
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Except those that dont differ to much in Dynamic range as i said, a HiHat or other Hi-Freq sound being compressed usually doesnt have a low-freq signal present but if the compressors MakeUp gain gains the signal, low frequency hum starts getting more apparent, because of the SNR (signal to noise) Ratio...
The sample has probably been recorded, so there is definately gonna be a significantly diferent SNR, as in say the VST u are using for bass....
Kicks are usually generated via a waveform, therefore a very High signal to noise ratio is apparent...
Try compressing a recorded Drum sample...
Its gna sound like its sucking in and out...
ONLY USE COMPRESSION WHEN IT IS NECESSARY!!!!
If you compress one element it changes the overall sound of all the elements because of your mix, so also try doing the single channel compression before you start your mixdown stage, or else you will be working yourself in circles lol....
I would suggest maybe a limiter, just to protect the peaks, but NO EXTRA GAIN!
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 22:21
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Lol, we are gonna have to do a little blind test I think.
But in answer to your points...
go and have a look at a hi hat sample in Wavelab - there is loads of dynamic variance, besides which, if you are using 24bit samples its much less of a problem, and as stated I gate before the end of the sample, so it never goes near the floor.
I have a running compressor on virtually every channel - I can assure you I'm not going around in circles! You say, 'only use compression when neccesary' - IMO, it always is - just like EQ.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 22:35
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 01:54
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 10:39
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each hat has its own channel, but it wouldn't hurt to have a colouring group channel device (like tube) to gel the channels together - depends what your samples are like.
Glad you liked, quite intimidating putting stuff up for tech scrutiny!
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 11:40
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Speakafreaka
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