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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 19:13
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I have met bad people  |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 19:35
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On 2009-04-08 19:13, ~d2~ wrote:
I have met bad people
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sorry to hear,
but I wonder, do you believe they were already bad as children? do you believe that their core, their soul was bad?
This is not a rethorical question. I'm really interested in your answer.
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 19:39
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Their core? I just don't look at people that way!!!!! Their soul? These are such subjective terms!!
I don't need pity. The world isn't perfect. It never will be. Perfection is an ideology, not a reality. Bad things will happen. Bad people will cross my path. I am OK with that. I accept it.
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 20:03
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On 2009-04-08 19:39, ~d2~ wrote:
Do you genuinely think that I think people are born bad?
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I don't know, I don't know you, thats why I asked
I know people who do think that. but usually they don't discuss a lot and I never found out why some people do think so. I hoped today I would find out.. but you disapoint me, you believe that people are born good. like me
I just think that if a person believes in something like a "soul" or a "inner child" or "core essence" whatever and believes that all people are born good, then this person consequently has to believe that bad people do not exist only bad actions
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 20:12
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I don't think people are born good or bad. I just don't have such extremist black and white views. Please stop projecting your own believes onto me
A women is raped. Whether the person is bad or their actions were bad is of little help!!!!!!!
Of course there may be a whole number of factors that lead up to the person performing such a horrible act. But that doesn't change the fact that the act was performed. We as human beings, as a race don't have all the answers. The problem of pedophiles does exist. Society needs to consider how and why it exists and take some responsibility. BUT and it is a big BUT, The person committing the crime was a bad person at that time, regardless of their history. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 20:23
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I find it out of way to say believing in the good of people is "extremist".
So you think people are born neutral? It's possible. I could understand that.
It is a lot of help if you distinguish between bad actions and bad people. it changes the way you look at people, you see them, handle them, help them even how they handle you is different and also it changes the way you feel about the world as such a lot. It totally changes everything how you subjectively perceive the world, how you react on positive and negative etc. etc. is totally endless. it's a big difference to believe in bad people or basically good people who do bad things. but thats of course everybodys own decision. I just wanted to say that it makes a big difference how you adjust your believe system.
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 20:29
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I don't believe in being such a nanny about people who commit horrific crimes. They need to be held accountable. Fortunately not everyone is as soft as you. The last thing we want is people thinking that that they can commit horrific crimes and people will be waiting to help them!!!!!!!!
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 20:43
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On 2009-04-08 20:29, ~d2~ wrote:
I don't believe in being such a nanny about people who commit horrific crimes. They need to be held accountable. Fortunately not everyone is as soft as you. The last thing we want is people thinking that that they can commit horrific crimes and people will be waiting to help them!!!!!!!!
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Now I understand!!!
You don't read!! it's you who are projecting a stereotype of "believe in good" people on me, instead of actually getting to know my real opinion. After all, you seem to be the extremist thats also why you are always talking from projection... because you still didn't see me 
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On 2009-04-08 18:31, subconsciousmind wrote:
I think that human beings who became like this are not bad, but have become like this for a reason, they actually would have needed help long ago. Mostly it's to late and in my opinion such people should be locked up and never left out, because most of them simply can't be cured anymore. But still for me they are not bad, they are weak, misled, poor. Do you understand?
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Could you please stay a bit more serious and stop to blame me as being a soft projective extremist and such? It really starts to annoy me.
Still for you and all interested a little summary of a very interesting international study:
1-3 year old children have been showed a short puppet play. A red coloured puppet tried to climb a latter then a green coloured puppet tried to come from bellow and stop it. Then they show a nother play and this time a blue puppet helped the red puppet to climb the ladder. Then the children were given the chance to either play with the gree or the blue puppet. 98% chose the blue puppet 50% of the children who chose the green puppet were colour blind.. the remaining 1%? maybe bad... who knows. Of course they did that in all possible colour variations and orders and in several countries all over the world.
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:09
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On 2009-04-08 20:43, subconsciousmind wrote:
Could you please stay a bit more serious and stop to blame me as being a soft projective extremist and such? It really starts to annoy me.
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No. I will be however I wish to be. It is not your place to tell me how to be.
I do think you take a soft liberal stance and I don't agree with it. Again I am not going to change my views to suite you. It doesn't work like that
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:11
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and if you are going to quote international studies you should be respectful and post a link or reference it correctly. Did you say you were a teacher? |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:13
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good luck with your attitude, google the study yourself. thanks for letting me now you a bit better now. you seem little adult and I'll use the rest of my day to relax since tomorrow in school I'll need my nerves for lack of respect children all day again. but then I at least get money for it
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~d2~
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:26
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If you can't be bothered to link it or at least name the study then I will just have to assume your a fraud
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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:28
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 21:52
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I think downloading any digital data is absolutly ok 
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 22:17
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On 2009-04-08 21:26, ~d2~ wrote:
If you can't be bothered to link it or at least name the study then I will just have to assume your a fraud
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Sure, because you believe in bad people. I get it. Seriously, I don't want to discuss with you anymore, since you don't listen and most of the time tell me how or what I am and what I should or should not do, and if I only ask you to be a bit more polite and respectful you tell me that I shouldn't tell you what to do.. its a bit ridiculous. After you I'm a "soft extremist" lol.. and I even did react to you...
The study is real. I learned about it at the UNI. I might have it somewhere in my scripts, but seriously, just because you think I'm lying I don't go to the cellar and search through 50 folders of stuff, scan the sheet etc.
You do not real discuss, but rather are all the time busy defininy who I am and you are not. its a total waste of time, but I learned how to identify people which I should better not discuss with. As soon as people (like you did) start to use the "you are, you are" " you do, you do" formula instead of actually talking about the subject I will from now on stop and go and do something productive. Thank you for that lesson. Honestly. thank you. its a bitter pill but it works.
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