Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 5, 2010 20:48
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while theres some truth in what you say, try to listen to artha's album and tell me that has been done before... while you can feel the hallucinogen influence, it does not try to be hallucinogen and its a totally fresh and different style in my humble opinion.
i dont know about you but i like my trance layered and complex, thats what makes this music much more interesting than most of whats out there... i've been listening to filteria for the past 4 years and i still discover new sounds each time i hear his tracks... this is what makes trance psychedelic in my opinion
The examples you mention are among those I think try too hard to sound like something already done. Ce La vie
To me psychedelic has to do with details and quality not quantity.
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Posted : Jun 7, 2010 14:44
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Ce La vie
Not to provoke any offtopic discussions here, but it's "c'est la vie". Since it's not the first time I see you using that expression, I think it's useful for u to know!
About the newschool thing, I wish there was way more laserkick and pumped up melodies-stuff. I hardly know 3 or 4 labels providing some tracks with that kind of music! Too bad, cuz i love it, hehe...
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Posted : Jun 10, 2010 20:44
When i need the certain mood
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Posted : Jun 10, 2010 23:06
I used to listen to it very often.
This qualify as old school goa for you?
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 00:43
Goa Trance music can really make you trip.
Mushrooms make you do crazy stuff. Look at Mario he jumps on animal heads and fights with dragons.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 14:59
even tho i got into the scene a bit towards the end of the whole "goa trance" scene ( about 1999/2000)
I find i am now diving back to the pre 2000 years to see what ive missed....and there is awesome stuff...im pretty much only listening to that kinda stuff nowadays along with a bit of early suomi when i wanna listen to some psytrance...
I generally prefer music with some emotional content and thats why goa works for me as its more about the emotions and vibe the music creates rather than just be something cool and funky to dance to...
off late ive been really losing it to Ubar Tmar, Crop Circles and ECT
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 15:11
There's really a very few old goa tunes I can listen to. There was very few tunes that got me into trance in 1994, but I can't stand the melodies (MFG is a prime example) that sound like what Nitzhonot (or summat) that came a few years later.
MWNN, Kox Box, Youth, Slinky Wizard, Trancewave, Total Eclipse, Etnica, Elysium and off course Hallucinogen, to name a few, are the few people that made trance music back then and I actually liked.
I rarely listen to Goa tunes today, but nothing from what people call "new school" Goa, this stuff is like all the cliche analog sounds from back then, without the magic and none of the essential stuff that actually made you trip.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 19:31
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I rarely listen to Goa tunes today, but nothing from what people call "new school" Goa, this stuff is like all the cliche analog sounds from back then, without the magic and none of the essential stuff that actually made you trip.
I don’t know about that. I still don’t know why “Daze of Our Life” is classified as Goa (other than the fact that it’s written by Filteria). I mean, you can hear a nod to Goa, a tip of a hat, a wink. But “this stuff is like all the cliche analog sounds from back then”? Don’t think so. And it’s not only because I like the album – I just really don’t hear those clichés there. Maybe because I’ve heard very little old school Goa. Or maybe those clichés are just not there. Give it a try – would be interesting to hear your opinion once you’ve heard it.
I listened to Artha’s “Fluori Dolby” last night. Liked it. Not sure if it qualifies as “old-school”. Probably not.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 22:02
You can dance to the full on other kind of trance.
I personally feel that what a old goa track can do you (trip) is very different experience to get it other forms of trance.
But some may differ.
Mushrooms make you do crazy stuff. Look at Mario he jumps on animal heads and fights with dragons.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 23:16
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can't stand the melodies (MFG is a prime example) that sound like what Nitzhonot (or summat) that came a few years later.
MFG-melodies are highly un-nitzhonot if u ask me...
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Posted : Jun 12, 2010 10:24
agree with agneton here... early MFG is nothing close to being cheesey as nitzhonot... and also while reminiscent to pleiadians, nothing about filteria's music is cliche in my opinion... DH you are just generalizing here... there are many "new school" artists that do exactly what you said, but filteria (nor artha) are far from it
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Posted : Jun 12, 2010 12:33
I listen daily to this kind of music... both old and new school... i don't care. It's pure love at first sight... When I started to listen to goa-trance 11 years ago this was thé music that managed to warm my heart, and it still does today!
For all the people that think new school goa trance is too generic or copy-paste... well, I agree the melodic releases are more in amount then the "different" ones, but it's clear lately there are more cds concentrating on not pure "melodic" stuff...
(although I will always stay a sucker for good melodies... )
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Posted : Jun 12, 2010 17:35
I remember there was a thread about irritating clichés. Orange mentioned something like “goa z-plus melody” among them. What is it? Like there was a track called “z-plus” and then everybody started copying its melody? Or there was a particular sound made in a VSTi called “z-plus” and then everybody started using it? Or something else?
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Posted : Jun 12, 2010 17:53
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On 2010-06-11 15:11, disco hooligans wrote:
I rarely listen to Goa tunes today, but nothing from what people call "new school" Goa, this stuff is like all the cliche analog sounds from back then, without the magic and none of the essential stuff that actually made you trip.
I don’t know about that. I still don’t know why “Daze of Our Life” is classified as Goa (other than the fact that it’s written by Filteria). I mean, you can hear a nod to Goa, a tip of a hat, a wink. But “this stuff is like all the cliche analog sounds from back then”? Don’t think so. And it’s not only because I like the album – I just really don’t hear those clichés there. Maybe because I’ve heard very little old school Goa. Or maybe those clichés are just not there. Give it a try – would be interesting to hear your opinion once you’ve heard it.
I listened to Artha’s “Fluori Dolby” last night. Liked it. Not sure if it qualifies as “old-school”. Probably not.
I have listened to Filteria, Artha, Artifact 303 (the one I liked the most actually), Space Elves, Radical Distortion, E-Mantra and by all means, I am not saying they are not making good music, but I just call 'em like I hear 'em. It does not move me, like when I hear MWNN, Total Eclipse's, Ayahuasca...etc.
I've been going to parties since 1994 and I am not saying, "beat that", its just that in my country Greece, Goa Trance was massive in the '90s and I have heard an awful lot of it and although I do enjoy listening to the odd goa tune from the artists I like, there is nothing in the new stuff that grabs me.
I am not generalizing, I am stating my opinion on the subject, which is obviously subjective, since I am talking about things that fit my taste. That is all.
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Posted : Jun 13, 2010 13:20
i guess this is the basic "if you experienced the original then the revival sounds plastic" thingy that happens everywhere all the time.
for example:
if one has been involved in the early years of goa when one was in his early 20's, the "movement" (cause it WAS a movement imo) was fresh, the sound was mindboggling and there was excitement and electricity in the air... and after that has experienced the (natural) "downfall" of this era and at the same time has woken up out of some illusions and crossed over to 30 realising one isn't immortal...
and then watched the next generation blowing into the cold ashes, trying to make a fire again...
at that point one has to realise that it's real for them who are living it for the first time NOW (like one did oneself long ago) and that the flames have only gone out in one's own heart.
this was a universal true story. this is how it goes down to anybody who has been young, lived and loved something passionately and seen it fall apart and then failed at accepting change and the fact that nothing lasts (but nothing is lost ) forever.
) forever.